East Village Rejuvenation Plan - Page 51

H.E.Pennypacker · #**1001** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 4:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

I noticed they finally drove the drill out to the actual EV Hilton site last time I went by a couple days ago. Too many delays here!

Drove past it tonight, looks like they have another pile driver and some more equipment on site ... Seems like this one is on the verge of starting

Chadillaccc · #**1002** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 5:56 AM**

Finally

Things have finally started to ramp up!

Bigtime · #**1003** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 4:27 PM**

RioCan and Embassy Bosa have just officially announced their East Village project with the urban format Loblaws.

Two residential condo towers, the first one is 40 storeys and the second phase is 23 storeys.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/mi...nounced+East+Village/10218281/story.html

Spring2008 · #**1004** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 4:41 PM**

^I like the massing. Wish they'd release more detailed renderings. If the cladding's anything like their Evolution towers, this will be another big win.

Bigtime · #**1005** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 4:45 PM**

Shades of City Centre with the glass fins extending vertically above the roofline, but the potential to do it with better glazing than City Centre. Fingers crossed.

Colin · #**1006** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 5:29 PM**

The rendering leaves a lot to be desired but I still like the project. The article mentions that there will be "rotating balcony that creates a dynamic diagonal line is a signature design element". Very interested in seeing how that will look. Might be on the other side of the tower?

Cyric · #**1007** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 5:32 PM**

I'd also like to see a bit more detail but from what they have it looks like it will be a fantastic addition to the area.

The construction start of summer 2015 seems fairly optimistic but I hope they can pull it off.

Govertical · #**1008** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 5:37 PM**

Looks great. I was really hoping we'd see some height in the east village similar to Victoria Park. Looking forward to this one. Is it starting soon?

CorporateWhore · #**1009** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:06 PM**

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Looks great. I was really hoping we'd see some height in the east village similar to Victoria Park. Looking forward to this one. Is it starting soon?

I like that East Village has more mid and low-rises, it makes it more pedestrian friendly and human-scaled. Victoria Park, despite having some tall towers, can still feel pretty cold and imposing to walk around (especially around Sasso/Vetro).

Boris2k7 · #**1010** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

I like that East Village has more mid and low-rises, it makes it more pedestrian friendly and human-scaled. Victoria Park, despite having some tall towers, can still feel pretty cold and imposing to walk around (especially around Sasso/Vetro).

I think the problem there isn't so much the towers but the fact that developers are working inside their silos as well as a lack of land stewardship.

CorporateWhore · #**1011** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Boris2k7

I think the problem there isn't so much the towers but the fact that developers are working inside their silos as well as a lack of land stewardship.

Agreed that's a big part of the problem, but I think smaller-scaled neighborhoods will always be more welcome to the pedestrian. You can see it around the world (NYC, Toronto, all of Europe)...the liveliest/friendliest neighborhoods always tend to be smaller scaled than the ones filled with 50 story condo towers.

There's just something more human about them (plus they tend to allow for more light, and have less wind canyon effect), and I think that's what I love about the direction East Village is going. I don't want to see massive towers there.

Boris2k7 · #**1012** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by CorporateWhore

Agreed that's a big part of the problem, but I think smaller-scaled neighborhoods will always be more welcome to the pedestrian. You can see it around the world (NYC, Toronto, all of Europe)...the liveliest/friendliest neighborhoods always tend to be smaller scaled than the ones filled with 50 story condo towers.

There's just something more human about them (plus they tend to allow for more light, and have less wind canyon effect), and I think that's what I love about the direction East Village is going. I don't want to see massive towers there.

I largely agree with that. I'm fine with Beltline being our urban jungle of sorts. I just wish that we had the same kind of land management that we see with CMLC, but I'm afraid that Beltline just doesn't have the tools to accomplish that. So we get stuck with the scattershot approach.

drto · #**1013** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:26 PM**

I think what makes the Sasso/Vetro area feel so un-inviting for pedestrians has more to do with being so close to the traffic of north- and southbound MacLeod Trail than it has to do with the height of these buildings. There is still plenty of space around the towers for sunlight to make its way to ground level.

The pedestrian feel of lower Manhattan with its narrow streets is completely different than midtown Manahattan despite towers of similar scale being present. Wider roads and sidewalks, more light penetrating thru and the constant vibe of residents/tourists vs uptight bankers all have an effect.

Spring2008 · #**1014** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:29 PM**

^The Beltline overall is getting a good mix of tall and shorter towers. It's not like everything's a 30 to 45 storey point tower, though Vic Park seems to be headed more in this direction. Vic Park just needs to fill some holes still. Before the previous cycle it was basically all vacant land, including a pretty barren 1st street. I prefer central/west Beltline currently, but a few more mixed-use projects in Vic Park and it'll be right up there with the rest of the Beltline.

Spring2008 · #**1015** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:34 PM**

Idk, it's decent but needs to be refined:

H.E.Pennypacker · #**1016** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

^The Beltline overall is getting a good mix of tall and shorter towers. It's not like everything's a 30 to 45 storey point tower, though Vic Park seems to be headed more in this direction. Vic Park just needs to fill some holes still. Before the previous cycle it was basically all vacant land, including a pretty barren 1st street. I prefer central/west Beltline currently, but a few more mixed-use projects in Vic Park and it'll be right up there with the rest of the Beltline.

Tend to agree with this .. More mixed use development to increase the density and number of people walking around on the streets and it will at least be vibrant .. Just hope they design some good interaction at the street level so it's more walkable .. Sasso/Vetro can be so cold and isolated at night it seems

Chadillaccc · #**1017** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 6:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

Idk, it's decent but needs to be refined:

Ick, that version looks dreadful.

Full Mountain · #**1018** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

Idk, it's decent but needs to be refined:

That podium has no cohesive elements, it's all over the place. I don't hate the towers as long as the glazing stays light, an all silver tower could be interesting.

Spring2008 · #**1019** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 9:05 PM**

The different versions of renders aren't even congruent amongst themselves. Looks more like a general massing model.

Spring2008 · #**1020** Posted **Sep 19, 2014, 10:34 PM**

Drilling has started at EV Hilton