Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[stayinginformed]

Big mixed use development coming to the Hostess/Franz Bakery location on 400 S between 700 and 800 East. Could have up to 300 units.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/58424130-79/south-400-complex-downtown.html.csp

[StevenF]

The residential complex, with as many as 300 units, is being built in a partnership between the Boyer Company and Cowboy Partners, a Salt Lake City-based developer specializing in multifamily and mixed-use building across the West.

Boyer please don't let Cowboy Partners have any say in material use on the outside of the building. I would also like to see 3 bedroom units since Cowboy Partners never does anything more than 2 bedroom units. So what I am really saying is use Cowboy Partners money but don't let them make many decisions. And don't call it Liberty....

[jubguy3]

Cowboy partner designers probably use light orange stucco as lube this is a serious issue that needs to be solved WITH DARK BROWN BRICKS THROWN AT THEM

[jubguy3]

Can we get a rundown of all of the projects that are being being built on university boulevard and cesar chaves boulevard?? Right now I know that the encore apartments, the Denver street apartments, the sizzler apartments and some other stuff around library square that I am not familiar with are going in but I think that it would be interesting to see everything else in a list.

[delts145]

Now this is really great news! I just hope they'll design a building worthy of this important lot, and not just another "Liberty So And So". I insist that Boyer & Cowboy Partners have improved their game some, but this particular lot demands a look around the continent for something of an excellent design or at the very least, quality materials...MINIMAL STUCCO!!!

Salt Lake City is at a point where it can emerge as one of America's most beautiful Downtowns or just another 'sprayed on stucco blah' There are a lot of looky-loo people, who frequent this forum and who make these decisions. PLEASE make the right decision on the finish materials. Please, do not slap on an over abundance of the cheap looking, sprayed on stucco.

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be great if they strongly echoed the design and brick of the original Trolley barns (not the brick on Whole Foods) I know not everyone will probably agree, but I'd like to see that neighborhood have a strong sense of the original Trolley Square flavor. FULL FLAVOR, NOT FAUX CHEAP! For me, Trolley Square should expand it's Victorian charm to envelop an entire district that is distinct and truly developed to it's potential. The city fathers should designate certain geographical boundaries and the design parameters within those boundaries. Doing this would stretch both the vibrancy and charm of Downtown to the east and the much needed gathering place to the west for the U. of U. Actually, I have this dream that the U. will someday develop a lower campus of specific disciplines focused around the Light Rail/700 E. 400 S. intersection. That intersection should become a grand plaza on the scale of the greats in Europe.

To truly create the kind of vibrancy that Trolley Square needs, and bring it out of this perpetual cycle of being chronically underdeveloped, of course, we need to construct much higher density residential along with unique retail in the area. But also, develop highly attractive boutique hotel offerings around Trolley Square. Make Trolley a 'must stay' hang out for the 'SKI CITY' Capital of North America.

Originally Posted by stayinginformed

Big mixed use development coming to the Hostess/Franz Bakery location on 400 S between 700 and 800 East. Could have up to 300 units.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/58424130-79/south-400-complex-downtown.html.csp

[jubguy3]

Sugarhouse vue was orange but it was also very nice. I'd like to see something like that.

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by stayinginformed

Big mixed use development coming to the Hostess/Franz Bakery location on 400 S between 700 and 800 East. Could have up to 300 units.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/58424130-79/south-400-complex-downtown.html.csp

This is really a large lot. I hope its awesome

[scottharding]

Originally Posted by delts145

Now this is really great news! I just hope they'll design a building worthy of this important lot, and not just another "Liberty So And So". I insist that Boyer & Cowboy Partners have improved their game some, but this particular lot demands a look around the continent for something of an excellent design or at the very least, quality materials...MINIMAL STUCCO!!!

Salt Lake City is at a point where it can emerge as one of America's most beautiful Downtowns or just another 'sprayed on stucco blah' There are a lot of looky-loo people, who frequent this forum and who make these decisions. PLEASE make the right decision on the finish materials. Please, do not slap on an over abundance of the cheap looking, sprayed on stucco.

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be great if they strongly echoed the design and brick of the original Trolley barns (not the brick on Whole Foods) I know not everyone will probably agree, but I'd like to see that neighborhood have a strong sense of the original Trolley Square flavor. FULL FLAVOR, NOT FAUX CHEAP! For me, Trolley Square should expand it's Victorian charm to envelop an entire district that is distinct and truly developed to it's potential. The city fathers should designate certain geographical boundaries and the design parameters within those boundaries. Doing this would stretch both the vibrancy and charm of Downtown to the east and the much needed gathering place to the west for the U. of U. Actually, I have this dream that the U. will someday develop a lower campus of specific disciplines focused around the Light Rail/700 E. 400 S. intersection. That intersection should become a grand plaza on the scale of the greats in Europe.

To truly create the kind of vibrancy that Trolley Square needs, and bring it out of this perpetual cycle of being chronically underdeveloped, of course, we need to construct much higher density residential along with unique retail in the area. But also, develop highly attractive boutique hotel offerings around Trolley Square. Make Trolley a 'must stay' hang out for the 'SKI CITY' Capital of North America.

Seconded. Everything you said. I also think "four to six" stories is a bit underwhelming for this plot of land, although I realize that height is sort of what the market is dictating right now, but sooner or later a developer is going to be bold and really make their project stand out. Like the AIR Center is attempting to do.

[JMK]

I could be wrong but I think the land bewtween ruby river and X wifes place is/was part of the bakery as well

[Future Mayor]

You're right that property you highlighted was part of the Bakery. I think Boyer and Cowboy have a chance to create a truly significant development on this site. I echo Delts opinions on having some pieces reflect the Trolley Square look, I also hope that they create an actual N/S Street and even a connecting street to 7th, that are public streets and not gated off.

I hope they front 4th, 5th and 7th in their designs rather than turning it all inward.


I was working on getting my house in selling shape and spent many days doing that over the past little while. On that note if anyone is looking to buy or possibly rent a charming Liberty Park area bungalow, please let me know. I did check in a few weeks ago, and tried to catch up on thread 3, then today I see thread 4, ugh, lots of catching up to do. I hope to once again be a near daily visitor and commenter. I will try to get the CCC condo update done today or tomorrow.

[Comrade]

I'm sure it'll be a stucco paradise.

[brankrom]

Originally Posted by H4vok

I passed the downtown LaPorte project today. There is definitely no work going on there. What is going on with that project?

Yes, —? I was so excited to see the renders for this project and now we're what? 4 years into it and there're a few concrete floors and girders? Sad. I haven't seen a crane or workers in months.Pretty sure the scary old mall thing with musamiccis was better than what's there now.


Still holding out hope for a completed project but I'm doubting... ...not seeing the state street project listed on their web site except as a picture on their "historic preservation page". Umm, there's nothing there to preserve.

[scottharding]

Yeah, I'd love to know what the deal is with the La Porte. Is it still technically the RDA that is in control of this project? We should contact them.

[Old&New]

Perhaps Boyer could develop something like this on their Hostess/Franz Bakery property:

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by Old&New

Perhaps Boyer could develop something like this:

I like this a lot as it gives plenty of space from the sculpture garden, mid block street, retail, green space and will allow for a taller building if they plan on maxing out the total units per acer. You need to send this to both Boyer and Cowboy Partners and if I still worked for Packsize in the main office I would give this directly to them since Packsizes office is in CP's building.

[scottharding]

I love the Gilgal Lane.

[AllOutOfBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by scottharding

I love the Gilgal Lane.

I second that! Gilgal is a awesome place that nobody knows about and there is little access to it.

[Old&New]

Originally Posted by StevenF

I like this a lot as it gives plenty of space from the sculpture garden, mid block street, retail, green space and will allow for a taller building if they plan on maxing out the total units per acer. You need to send this to both Boyer and Cowboy Partners and if I still worked for Packsize in the main office I would give this directly to them since Packsizes office is in CP's building.

Will you send it to them? Thanks! I will send you a larger image.

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by Old&New

Will you send it to them? Thanks!

I unfortunately no longer work for that company and don't make my way up to 6440 S. Wasatch Blvd anymore or have a reason to.

[Old&New]

Originally Posted by StevenF

I unfortunately no longer work for that company and don't make my way up to 6440 S. Wasatch Blvd anymore or have a reason to.

Do you have their email addresses? I can send it if i have their email addresses.