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I've moved both ways. Canada is equally uncultured everywhere.
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Sorry, who were you trolling?
Almost everyone on this one. Seriously. The city versus city and region versus region crap in this thread is pathetic and the victimization playing is tiresome. It's a thread for posting skyline photos.
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Old Posted Sep 5, 2014, 6:59 PM
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Almost everyone on this one. Seriously. The city versus city and region versus region crap in this thread is pathetic and the victimization playing is tiresome. It's a thread for posting skyline photos.
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That's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered before. Do former easterners who move to Calgary annoy you more than native Calgarians?
I would tend to say yes, but the sample we have is quite limited.
     
     
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Gastown in Vancouver certainly has some good architecture and is a unique place but I have never really thought of it as a real part of the city. It's been getting better but it is still very much a tourist destination with all the standard tacky souvenir shops and Old Spaghetti Factory. It's just not part of the Vancouver urban fabric.

Vancouverites don't go to Gastown unlike Peggers who do go to The Exchange. Gastown is still very much a tourist trap and although that is beginning to wane, Vancouverites tend to avoid it. Another problem with Gastown and Chinatown is that it is quite dangerous and is Canada's only true skid-row.

You can't go 10 feet without being asked if you want "company", pot, meth, heroine, coke, spare change or just look at the hundreds of street people who's sole occupation is looking for their next fix. It's a very sad area where young girls openly shoot-up right on the sidewalks. Chinatown and Gastown are in the thick of skid-row which is why the one thing you will never see in the area is young children with their parents.

It's for these reasons that, although Vancouverites may say it's nice area to visit for tourist, they would never even dream about going there themselves. This is completely the opposite of The Exchange in Winnipeg which is truly a vital part of the city and her residents.
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This has to be one of the most asinine and clueless (or viciously dishonest) statements ever made on this forum. Utterly laughable.

For people who have not been to Vancouver, Gastown is the historic heart of downtown Vancouver and is arguably the hippest, funkiest, most relevant urban neighbourhood in the city. It's a vibrant nexus of bold cuisine, independent cafes and bars, art studios, film schools, independent fashion, music and nightlife, high-end interior design shops and the very epicentre of Vancouver's dynamic high-tech and VFX industry.

Gastown is a jewel, for both Vancouverites and visitors.
Just to further agree with promethius and counter ssiguy's predictably inaccurate rambling diatribe, here is an article from yesterday's Business in Vancouver.

It generally states what everyone who lives there actually knows, that Gastown is probably the coolest neighbourhood in the city. It has several of my favourite higher end restaurants and is often my first choice to going out when in Vancouver for work or fun. Most downtown residents I know feel the same, and it's often a toss up between a bar or restaurant in Yaletown or gastown for a night out. Yaletown is a bit fancier (but can be douchier) and Gastown is a bit hipper (but can be seedier).

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Gastown maturing into high-tech hub

By Frank O’Brien
Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:16am PST

A Vancouver cloud-linked tech giant has become the largest office tenant in Gastown, further evidence that the heritage area is emerging as a hip, high-tech hub in Vancouver.

Global Relay, which began in 2005 with 2,500 square feet at 220 Cambie Street has relocated in the same building by leasing up 62,000 square feet, reports Colliers International.

“Global Relay is one of Vancouver’s biggest success stories and their space has allowed them a competitive advantage over others looking to hire locally,” said Colin Scarlett senior vice president of Colliers International, who handled the lease.

A leading provider of cloud-based electronic messaging for the global financial sector, Global Relay has 18,000 customers in 90 countries and offices in New York, Chicago, London and Singapore.

Global Relay’s new Gastown digs reflect what Jones Lang Lasalle, in a recent High-Technology Office Outlook report, calls a “second wind” that is boosting office demand in once-struggling urban centres.

"Tech companies are looking for new locations for many reasons, not just for intellectual capital, or venture capital funding, but also for other factors such as standard of living," said Julia Georgules, co-lead of JLL's Technology research group

Gastown, with its heritage buildings, restaurants, clubs and urban vibe is considered one of Vancouver’s top hipster neighbourhoods. Global Relay’s new office includes a rooftop deck, high ceilings, the quintessential brick walls and timber beams – and even an in-house chef who makes hot meals for the mostly millennial staff.

It reflects a re-development trend in Gastown aimed squarely at the high-tech sector.

An example is Century Group, which is redeveloping the first new office building in Gastown in decades.

The Delta-based developer plans to restore the façade of 151 West Hastings Street, built 114 years ago, and build four floors of new office space behind it. The site will have a 4,800-square-foot green rooftop deck as well as amenities such as plug-ins for electric bikes, indoor and outdoor bike racks, according to Brett Walsh, Century Group’s director of real estate financing. Colliers is handling the leasing and is targeting tenants in the technology, digital media and gaming sectors, according to Colliers associate vice-president Stephen Moscovich.
I honestly wonder if ssiguy even lives in Vancouver or if he's just some troll account from another city.
     
     
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the shot implies that things like those pre-war buildings in the foreground extend from the high-rise core in every direction to the same degree. i don't know if they do or not but given canada i'd guess no. if they did it would be chicago, or at least cleveland.
     
     
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That's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered before. Do former easterners who move to Calgary annoy you more than native Calgarians? I would assume for someone to leave home and head out west there must be some level of dissatisfaction on their part with where they are from. The same can be said I guess for Westerners moving out east and turning their backs on us 'uncultured' hick towns.
Hey who said they were hick towns? jk

Can't speak for Molson, but I'm going to pipe in..

I think you are bang on..
I know I'm generalizing, but just from my own personal experience the most annoying boosterism came from people I knew who just couldn't make a go here, so they went out to Calgary and found sense of place, abundant work etc.

Most native Calgarians I met were real cool and down to earth. It's the ones I knew from Ontario who couldn't make it work here like I said.
Let's be honest..It's a huge leap to head West..The same can be said for Westerners heading East..Lots of people I were aquainted with from small town Ontario headed west on a leap of faith. Some were broke and destitute at the time..Some came back, and some I'm happy to hear are making it work for them.
     
     
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the shot implies that things like those pre-war buildings in the foreground extend from the high-rise core in every direction to the same degree. i don't know if they do or not but given canada i'd guess no. if they did it would be chicago, or at least cleveland.
More than a few Canadian cities have pre-war regions extending out that range. There may have be later intensification and a few buildings torn down in that area but still a decent showing. Hamilton and Ottawa both do that distance fairly well. Toronto and Montreal definitely do. I'm guessing Winnipeg and Quebec City would also manage it.
     
     
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it's sort of like talking about quebec with montrealers who moved to toronto in 1984 or whatever.
     
     
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it's sort of like talking about quebec with montrealers who moved to toronto in 1984 or whatever.
I'm not trying to compare Canada to Europe, but the distance between U of A and downtown Edmonton is only like 5km according to Google, which is a distance a decent number of Canadian cities have covered in pre-war build.
     
     
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So KW, my Brazilian friend who moved from here to TO, hated it, and then on to Saskatchewan, has now moved back to TO. Not sure what your guess was as to how long he would last, but I believe you've earned some winnings.

Anyhow, he just posted a nice pic. Assume it was taken today:

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Just to further agree with promethius and counter ssiguy's predictably inaccurate rambling diatribe, here is an article from yesterday's Business in Vancouver.

It generally states what everyone who lives there actually knows, that Gastown is probably the coolest neighbourhood in the city. It has several of my favourite higher end restaurants and is often my first choice to going out when in Vancouver for work or fun. Most downtown residents I know feel the same, and it's often a toss up between a bar or restaurant in Yaletown or gastown for a night out. Yaletown is a bit fancier (but can be douchier) and Gastown is a bit hipper (but can be seedier).

I honestly wonder if ssiguy even lives in Vancouver or if he's just some troll account from another city.
I definitely agree that Gastown is more popular, more diverse and more 'authentic' than it's ever been. Sometimes there are so many people walking the streets in the afternoons and evenings that taxis get stuck waiting. For some reasons our home grown Vancouver haters wish it still wish Gastown was it's Expo '86 half tourist trap half rundown scuzz self.
     
     
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So KW, my Brazilian friend who moved from here to TO, hated it, and then on to Saskatchewan, has now moved back to TO. Not sure what your guess was as to how long he would last, but I believe you've earned some winnings.

Anyhow, he just posted a nice pic. Assume it was taken today:


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Gastown might be second only to Granville Street as a primary nightlife destination in the region. People from all over the region head to its various pubs and venues all the time.
     
     
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Gastown might be second only to Granville Street as a primary nightlife destination in the region. People from all over the region head to its various pubs and venues all the time.
Obviously Granville St. has the concentration of nightclubs and bars, while the Gastown area is more dispersed and less obvious. I think the number of venues may be pretty close between the 2 areas. Gastown definitely has a better vibe though with a different attitude from the younger set and a bit of an older crowd mixed in. Less mainstream music as well. In the coming years I can see E. Hastings becoming a club row, but with a Commercial Dr. type vibe, along with the things that are happening in other parts of the DTES.

Completely off topic so I should include a skyline photo...


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I love The Cambie in (near?) Gastown, went there many times, but most of my nights were around Alberni and along Robson. This is largely because I usually went to Japanese and Korean bars. Always fun to meet girls there

Also loved The Warehouse on Granville, such a great deal for good burgers...
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