The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! II - Page 492

Architype · #**9821** Posted **Jul 23, 2014, 11:49 PM**

They made the mistake of using the "s" word (skyscraper), oops.

That's about one highrise per 930 people (for the city).

There are about 1146 listed for the entire metro area.

yaletown_fella · #**9822** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 12:30 AM**

That new office tower in Metrotown is really nice!

I wish we'd get a similar new office or mixed use tower in NYCC.

Prometheus · #**9823** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 12:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

That new office tower in Metrotown is really nice!

I wish we'd get a similar new office or mixed use tower in NYCC.

In case you didn't know already, that's Metrotower III and for a suburban tower it is quality:

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Originally Posted by vanman

Update by me taken today.

Architype · #**9824** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 12:57 AM**

^ Metrotower III is a great looking building.

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Originally Posted by Architype

They made the mistake of using the "s" word (skyscraper), oops.

That's about one highrise per 930 people (for the city).

There are about 1146 listed for the entire metro area.

If using the "s" word (minimum 100 meters), they could refer to the following list which shows Vancouver as ranking #49 and having 48 skyscrapers.

http://www.emporis.com/statistics/most-skyscraper-cities-worldwide

dleung · #**9825** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 3:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Yeah, a better comparison to Metrotown is NYCC. Once Sears redevelops its parking lots, Metrotown will look pretty much the same as North York. That being said, I don't particularly like North York or Metrotown. Continuous walls of glass make for a pretty bland environment. One advantage Metrotown has over North York is population density, so maybe it will turn out to be a little more urban.

North Vancouver, New Westminster and Richmond, are all more urban than both Metrotown and NYCC.

The closest thing metro Vancouver has to 905-style suburbs is Surrey or Coquitlam.

GlassCity · #**9826** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 3:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

North Vancouver, New Westminster and Richmond, are all more urban than both Metrotown and NYCC.

The closest thing metro Vancouver has to Mississauga-style suburbs/downtowns is Surrey or Coquitlam.

Definitely. A bunch of highrises does not an urban core make. Metrotown is also at a disadvantage because of an awkward street layout.

giallo · #**9827** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 4:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Architype

Here's an article of interest from the Vancouver Sun; it also mentions this website:

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/com...story.html?__lsa=33a0-d479#ixzz38KCB3npR

It's a nice article and all, but it's so inaccurate. Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Chongqing all have more highrises than Toronto. And Shanghai, though there is no concrete numbers available from the city, is said to have at least double the number of highrises that New York has. Any aerial confirms this.

These lists pop up every year, and always omit Chinese cities (understandable as China doesn't release building number counts to the public). They should at least put an asterisk next to the list or something.

Architype · #**9828** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 5:54 AM**

^ Somebody should probably figure it out. It's easier to just count skyscrapers than all highrises. The Emporis numbers for highrises are actually meant to be more accurate; SSP's are not really comprehensive worldwide.

MonkeyRonin · #**9829** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 6:14 AM**

Pretty shoddy journalism. Apparently they can just cite anything on the internet and report it as true.

Next up: "According to comments on Youtube.com, my mother has had sexual relations with dozens of 12-year-olds last night alone!"

Martin Mtl · #**9830** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 2:15 PM**

montreal at night by mustafio mustachio on Flickr

montreal pano front 180 by mustafio mustachio on Flickr

1ajs · #**9831** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 2:43 PM**

HomeInMyShoes · #**9832** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 2:46 PM**

According to wikipedia, Vancouver is around number 42 on the world list. My first thought was where the heck is South America: Caracas, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo, and Rio de Janeiro to name the obvious.

Delirium · #**9833** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 3:01 PM**

That first Montreal pic is fantastic.

came across these great pictures taken from the top of Ice. you can see them all at https://www.flickr.com/photos/danlevy/ but here's a couple good ones.

Photo by Dan Levy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/danlevy/14532305270/sizes/h/

Photo by Dan Levy https://www.flickr.com/photos/danlevy/14532371248/sizes/h/

Photo by Dan Levy https://www.flickr.com/photos/danlevy/14718632032/sizes/h/

1overcosc · #**9834** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 3:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

North Vancouver, New Westminster and Richmond, are all more urban than both Metrotown and NYCC.

The closest thing metro Vancouver has to 905-style suburbs is Surrey or Coquitlam.

Ya, but they're pre-war centres, analogous to, say, Yonge & Eglinton. What makes Metrotown and NYCC so incredible is that they are post-war. Its (relatively) easy to intensify something that already has urban bones, much harder to create new urban bones out of suburbia.

In the next 10-15 years we're going to see a huge explosion of urbanization of post-war areas in Toronto. The Ontario Greenbelt & Places to Grow Act policies that restrict suburban development are already starting to force density. The planned expansion of Greenbelt protection (now set to move through quickly given Liberal majority) to cover large swaths of land around Niagara, KWC, Barrie, and Peterborough will seal the deal. So far its really only southern York Region, and to a lesser extent Mississauga, that has done any significant urbanizing. We're going to see that spread into northern York Region, Durham, Brampton, and Halton in the not too distant future. Brampton in particular has huge potential given that it already has a pre-war urban downtown to build from, that will soon be the junction of LRT to Mississauga, BRT to York Region, and GO RER to central Toronto, Pearson Airport, and KWC.

GO RER will fundamentally transform the GTA like nothing before, allowing fast express travel across the whole region and deep into surrounding Southern Ontario--as far out as Barrie, Kitchener, and Niagara Falls (possibly Peterborough & Brantford as well in future phases), linking up directly with several of the major urban nodes, and connecting to all the rest via subway & LRT connections.

Vancouver is in a similar situation as the harsh geographic constraints of mountains & oceans also limit land available for suburbia. I know less about Greater Vancouver but I imagine there's going to be lots of urbanization there too. On the other hand, Montreal, Calgary, Ottawa, and Edmonton have a much harder battle ahead of them due to the abundance of greenfield land available for development at their edges. If they can get to 50% intensification growth it will be damn impressive, whereas Vancouver & Toronto will likely be as high as 70%-80% within a decade or two.

Hali87 · #**9835** Posted **Jul 24, 2014, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by giallo

It's a nice article and all, but it's so inaccurate. Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Chongqing all have more highrises than Toronto. And Shanghai, though there is no concrete numbers available from the city, is said to have at least double the number of highrises that New York has. Any aerial confirms this.

These lists pop up every year, and always omit Chinese cities (understandable as China doesn't release building number counts to the public). They should at least put an asterisk next to the list or something.

I was also surprised to see Montreal, and especially, Kiev on that list.