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Originally Posted by brudy
If I can get over that way, I'll take some shots. The colors of AVA and the other one are pretty bad - worse than in the renderings. It looks very juvenile with the various colors, shapes, and signage..... I'm seriously bummed about this one because I love the location and had thought about moving there, but there's no way I'd live in that thing.
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I notice that google has recently updated their street view map site, so there now are online images of dtla from as recently as 2 months ago. Ava as seen from google's cam does look noticeably tacky, & TCA's proj at Wilshire & LaBrea is even worse. however, I'd still welcome seeing continuous photo updates of what's going on in dtla, even more so since photos can give a different sense of what's going on. I'm also sure the sidewalk areas around Ava are in a more complete condition today than they were over 8 wks ago.
I remain amazed at how differently ppl filter things, based on their own sense of taste or aesthetics...or priorities. I remember once thinking that if you truly disliked things like Ava then combining that with your impression of the very rundown, very grubby, desolate sections of dtla....which is what I would consider much of the industrialized eastern side of dt to be, & which includes a good chunk of the arts district....would make LA in your eyes the worst of both worlds. It would be a double whammy to you. Yet you said you like the look and feel of that part of dt, which was described in more negative terms by quixote a few days ago.
the reason why I think far more ppl have a tough time warming up to LA isn't so much cuz its newer devlpt isn't better....as bad as TCA or similar projs are....but cuz its older sections give far more ppl a much more negative feeling. A clue of that being true is that it's not as though LA were treated like a crown jewel of the west coast well before the bad architecture of the past 30 yrs...much less past 5 yrs....had entered the scene.
As for the matter of the way that new devlpt in LA compares with new devlpt elsewhere, or a sense that the grass is greener on the other side of the hill. I know alki has implied on occasion that the quality of devlpt in his part of the west coast....in the PNW....is somehow better than what's found here in LA. I sort of bought into that assumption until I came across images of newer devlpt in Seattle....or things from around maybe 20 yrs ago....& then what I saw of one new highrise apt tower in particular that's currently going up, & shown in the the city compilations page for seattle....& I was surprised at how tacky such devlpt was.
There's a major concert hall in London that is honored as a fine example of early 1960s design by many Britishers. I personally think it looks cheap....it even has a big clunky sign on the top side of it that makes me think of what a person would see plastered to the side of a burban dept store. So even though I think their capital city is full of beautiful old devlpt, when it comes to newer things, their sense of good design & my sense of good design are at a loggerheads.
here's another example of how bad taste.....GOOFY taste, tacky taste!....TCA type of taste...exists far & wide. this is a famous sign that has existed outside a very important bldg of a city that has long been considered rather aesthetically pleasing. IOW, if something this bad....or this dorky.....can crop up there, it can crop up anywhere!
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^ TG something like that isn't spinning around outside the somewhat new hdqrts of the LAPD at 1st & Spring sts.