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Originally Posted by ue
High costs for rent is a ludicrous excuse for not having a proper urban farmers market for city dwellers to connect with farmers and artisans on a weekly basis. The people who think that must not realize the land that St. Lawrence and Kensington in Toronto sit on are highly lucrative pieces of land, or the ByWard in Ottawa, or basically any market in the Lower Mainland.
Scarth Street in the Beltline already reminds me a bit of 104 St here in Downtown Edmonton and I think an outdoor market like the one here on 104th would be perfect. An indoor facility could be built at 17th and Scarth for year round use.
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With respect to a farmers' market, what do people consider a true farmers' market? Something like Calgary Farmers' Market or the Kingsland Farmers' Market or the Crossroads Market - which are more food courts with just a few actual farmers there?
Do people want a certified farmers' market in the core - not just a market which allows flea market stuff or resellers like Avon and such? Crossroads is not a certified farmers' market and doesn't call themselves one.
Would people rather have a real outdoor farmers' market that consists of mostly locally grown/produced produce/meats/jams/etc or locally produced artisan products - similar to Calgary's oldest certified farmers' market and also Calgary's largest outdoor seasonal farmers' market (Grassroots Northland since 1992)?
The biggest issue with an outdoor market comes down to the cost of the venue on which one operates a market - it's a very tricky balance between what the landlord charges and what the market charges for stall rent to their vendors. Some of these downtown markets in Edmonton, Vancouver and Toronto may very well be getting subsidized rents which makes the whole operation more viable but in Calgary, there currently isn't an availability of open space in the downtown core that is available at an realistic rent that makes an outdoor market feasible. Another problem is that there is already a glut of weekend markets in Calgary & area (Calgary Farmers, Kingsland Farmers, Crossroads, Blackfoot, South Fish Creek, Thorncliffe/Greenview, Inglewood, Bearspaw, Symons Valley, Cochrane, Millarville, Carstairs, Strathmore and Okotoks) - 14 weekend markets is a lot of stall spaces for the number of actual producers/vendors that are available.
Personally, I'd love to see an outdoor certified farmers' market in the core/beltline and probably the best place for it to get a start is from one of the community associations in those areas - problem is that they may not even have the space to do such. Another problem is it's very difficult to get established producers/vendors to give up a market they already may be at in exchange for a new market and or even opening up in a second, new stall at a new market.
Some might wonder how I have some insight with all of this - mostly because of a non-profit organization my wife is involved in runs a certified farmers' market here in Calgary and over the past 7 years, we've gained a lot of insight into what it takes to manage a farmers' market in Calgary. Believe it or not, rent costs versus stall income is a very big factor in the viability of an outdoor farmers' market in Calgary - The Hillhurst/Sunnyside market only just reopened in the past two years as well as the Triwood market. Triwood is still struggling and Sunnyside is only seeing success because of the live entertainment they can offer and the beer gardens as well.
Creating a new, outdoor certified farmers' market in the core/beltline would be a huge undertaking - see the
Alberta Farmers' Market Association and the
Alberta Approved Farmers' Markets web sites for more details regarding certified farmers' markets.