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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 3:34 PM
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Here's my list so far...

Museum of Energy
Mewata Market
Giant public art pieces that put Chicago to shame
L.A live style entertainment complex
Video game museum

Such good ideas!
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Just noticed this. Thanks *10. Please do this every summer.
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That "incomplete" list is pretty epic!

While there are lots of tourist attractions, there are few monuments in Calgary for tourists to go see.
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Here's my list so far...

Museum of Energy
Mewata Market
Giant public art pieces that put Chicago to shame
L.A live style entertainment complex
Video game museum

Such good ideas!
you forgot the Nose Hill Natural History Museum

I don't think the location is that bad, plenty of cities have tourist attractions out of the core. It would be better for school tours that way as well. Given the purpose, I don't think their is a better location for it, being able to offer direct access to Nose hill, site of wildlife, wildflowers and historic native sights. Tourists would be happy to make their way up just for the views. A $15 cab ride or bus isn't that big a barrier.
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Yeah the actual market at Byward is nice and we definitely need something like that here, but you are right, its the area around it that makes it great! Calgary can come close to the area with places like Kensington or Eau Claire (I think with a major renovation the market could actually work now), we just need the actual market to anchor it and make it more than a drinking destination.
If Tompkins park was replaced with an old brick market building, we would essentially have our version of Byward Market.

Maybe Kensington can get some kind of a market going. It's a destination spot, at least for Calgarians.

Right now for Calgary it seems like a street market in Kensington/Beltline/Mission/Inglewood/Bridgeland would be a good way to go.
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How about the relocation of the Wild Rose Brewery to downtown? Make it like the steam whistle brewery in Toronto or the Granville island brewery in Vancouver. Offering tours and an area to eat and drink.
The current brewery looks a little....sad
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Wild Rose will have to relocate. The surprise is that they've been able to stay this long. They realize this and have been trying to find a suitable location for a while.
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I thought Wild Rose already moved? Would be great for them to be in Ramsay I think, sort of an industrial option, but with a nice restaurant facing the street.
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I agree with that but given time, fauxhistory eventually becomes history. Does it not? It might seem stupid to us but in a couple o hundred years a Sandstone Castle built now will have a story
Borrowing ideas is not a bad thing but it is not as if we are in need of a fortification and are borrowing the idea of a castle as it is an improvement on what we currently have either in form or function. If we were to borrow historical architectural concepts from Africa, Asia and the Middle East in order to help keep our buildings cool in an attempt to be sustainable, that would be an interesting story in the future. When we borrow architectural and urban design principles from Vancouver as we try to create an urban built form, that will provide an interesting story in the future.

When we borrow fortification concepts from the Middle Ages because it looks cool in Game of Thrones, it will probably be considered just as silly when the story is told in the future as it will be today since there is no relevance.


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Managing access and finding ways to bring people in such as to learn about and more respect these areas is all critical to the longer term viability of spaces like nose hill. That is global best practice. The location was suggested given the specific institution that was envisioned. We're not talking a bunch of fruit sellers charading as an international tourist destination, rather, are talking a natural history museum, leveraging that land as a way to tell a story. I think perhaps we don't think about that because we have so much land to just sprawl everywhere, but the reality is, even our protected lands within the city need a pinch intensification.
While that might be a good way to teach people, I think there are other ways that will not require an intrusion into a conservation area yet be just as, or even more, efficient and effective.
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While that might be a good way to teach people, I think there are other ways that will not require an intrusion into a conservation area yet be just as, or even more, efficient and effective.
Great - what's your more efficient and effective idea to leverage the amazing asset that is Nose Hill?

My touchstone had been Stanley Park and Ngorongoro Crater, and to a degree the Serengeti and Masai Mara. Ngorongoro is probably the best world-class touchstone and my favourite of the four listed.
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Is someone suggesting we put a museum on Nose Hill? that's one of the most ridiculous ideas I've heard if true lol.
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If Tompkins park was replaced with an old brick market building, we would essentially have our version of Byward Market.

Maybe Kensington can get some kind of a market going. It's a destination spot, at least for Calgarians.

Right now for Calgary it seems like a street market in Kensington/Beltline/Mission/Inglewood/Bridgeland would be a good way to go.
While I get what you are saying, Tompkins park is perfect the way it is and I hope nothing happens to it.
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When we borrow fortification concepts from the Middle Ages because it looks cool in Game of Thrones, it will probably be considered just as silly when the story is told in the future as it will be today since there is no relevance.
Again I agree. But it can still be a good tourist draw. This isn't a perfect example but it was built long after anything like this was needed.

http://www.neuschwanstein.de/englisch/palace/
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Can't agree more about Sled Island, it is a real gem unlike many other better know mega-festivals that share the same artists and style. If anyone hasn't checked it out, they really are missing out. There is much for everyone, and even more if you want to get out into some exciting fringes of music.

I can see those that are into the huge festivals aren't as satisfied, Coachella has what 2 weekends of 50 - 100,000+? Bananas banaride:

I think Folk Fest is always up there, usually 10-15,000 per day x 3 or 4 days. A total of 70 - 100 artists all in one place.

Chasing Summer was upwards of 10,000 per day as well during that weekend at Fort Calgary, the same weekend as Afrikeday at Prince's Island for 5 - 10,000 more.

Sled Island is always the hardest to measure. The entire inner city is buzzing that weekend. It features 200+ bands, 40 venues (many stages, bars, Olympic Plaza, EV plaza weird one-off ones etc.) I would guess anywhere from 5,000 - 20,000 Sledders per day? who knows lol
Here is what I struggle with. VIP tickets for X-Fest $250. Coachella Tickets $380. I just don't feel like I get my bang for buck at x-fest. Great lineup, and I am stoked to go. But Coachella is really something else. Beyond the music the facility and the efficiency at the venue is worth every penny.
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Is someone suggesting we put a museum on Nose Hill? that's one of the most ridiculous ideas I've heard if true lol.
Several people discussed an idea that has been refined to a natural history museum on the edge of nose hill.
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Here is what I struggle with. VIP tickets for X-Fest $250. Coachella Tickets $380. I just don't feel like I get my bang for buck at x-fest. Great lineup, and I am stoked to go. But Coachella is really something else. Beyond the music the facility and the efficiency at the venue is worth every penny.
I get that these events are popular and have pricey tickets, but I'm wondering if there are any more institutional year round tourist attraction ideas?
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Several people discussed an idea that has been refined to a natural history museum on the edge of nose hill.
Nose Hill has some pretty cool archeological sites...
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Great - what's your more efficient and effective idea to leverage the amazing asset that is Nose Hill?
I think Nose Hill Park is doing more than okay as just a park and I don't think we need to be leveraging the park. We could utilize other better located sites across the city for a museum/institution that could successfully teach people about conservation and many other things.
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Here is what I struggle with. VIP tickets for X-Fest $250. Coachella Tickets $380. I just don't feel like I get my bang for buck at x-fest. Great lineup, and I am stoked to go. But Coachella is really something else. Beyond the music the facility and the efficiency at the venue is worth every penny.
Coachella is kind of like Costco, you get a discount when buy great talent in bulk.
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That "incomplete" list is pretty epic!

While there are lots of tourist attractions, there are few monuments in Calgary for tourists to go see.
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Just noticed this. Thanks *10. Please do this every summer.
My pleasure, please feel free to pass on/share. I'll update as announcements come in.
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