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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 2:00 AM
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This was posted here over 2 months ago.


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Australian investment group steps in to complete UTOPIA

By Madeleine Brown, Deseret News

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86560...t-group-steps-in-to-complete-UTOPIA.html

SALT LAKE CITY — After more than a decade, the original vision for Utah’s fiber-optic network project UTOPIA may finally be realized, thanks to an Australian investment group.

Sydney-based Macquarie Capital Group wants to finish building the network that has been plagued by inconsistent financing and construction.

The idea for the Utah Telecommunications Open Infrastructure Agency began 12 years ago to bring high Internet speeds — as fast as 1 gigabit per second — to individuals and businesses.

The 11 cities that originally signed on with UTOPIA and now will decide whether to opt in to Macquarie's proposal are Brigham City, Centerville, Layton, Lindon, Midvale, Murray, Orem, Payson, Perry, Tremonton and West Valley City.

“One of the big potential advantages to this proposal is it would build up a whole system, and the system would finally have the scale of connections, and therefore customers, that would be able to fulfill the vision that it was originally started with,” said Wayne Pyle, West Valley city manager and chairman of the UTOPIA board of trustees...


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Look at the base. It's different than this one you just posted.
Yes, the other is an earlier rendering.
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 2:58 AM
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I believe that I posted the older rendering. I just didn't have time to go through and search for the other one.
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 3:46 AM
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It's funny. With every new rendering, 151 Tower becomes more and more impressive. Yet, with every new rendering, 111 Tower becomes more and more disappointing.
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 4:01 AM
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^^^ I believe it's because SOM, the designers of 222, are no longer involved. It looks like in order to save cost, they gave it to MHTN, the local architect of 222. They designed Gateway Tower West, but who knows if they have the same talent that they had back then. I think their stuff is hit or miss depending on the team. That rendering may be a poor representation, and the design may not be final.
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 10:34 AM
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This was posted here over 2 months ago.
Seriously...So What! It was updated and published again yesterday, and I'm sure there are a few who might be interested...
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 3:22 PM
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^^^ I believe it's because SOM, the designers of 222, are no longer involved. It looks like in order to save cost, they gave it to MHTN, the local architect of 222. They designed Gateway Tower West, but who knows if they have the same talent that they had back then. I think their stuff is hit or miss depending on the team. That rendering may be a poor representation, and the design may not be final.
I thought VCBO was the local architect for 111. did that change?
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 3:43 PM
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Well, whoever the architect is I agree with Orlando, the rendering leaves a lot to be desired. The only positive about the rendering is that we won't have any false buildup about the actual result once the tower is built. I'm still betting that we'll all be pleasantly surprised at how much better the outcome will be over the rendering.
     
     
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So, I was dinking around yesterday, looking at City Creek Properties, and decided to email them and ask about The Cascade... this is the response that I received:

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There are no plans for the Cascade as of yet. Its slated to be a 20 story residential (condo) tower but that could also change.

Thanks for asking and we will probably have some ting on our website whenever plans are announced.

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So, I was dinking around yesterday, looking at City Creek Properties, and decided to email them and ask about The Cascade... this is the response that I received:

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There are no plans for the Cascade as of yet. Its slated to be a 20 story residential (condo) tower but that could also change.

Thanks for asking and we will probably have some ting on our website whenever plans are announced.

Chris Corroon
And could that change be for the taller? that is the question!
     
     
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Here are a few pictures I snapped yesterday so people can see the demolition. Lots of people watching it on their lunch breaks.

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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 6:38 PM
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So, I was dinking around yesterday, looking at City Creek Properties, and decided to email them and ask about The Cascade... this is the response that I received:

(deek1978):

There are no plans for the Cascade as of yet. Its slated to be a 20 story residential (condo) tower but that could also change.

Thanks for asking and we will probably have some ting on our website whenever plans are announced.

Chris Corroon
I had no clue Chris Corroon was involved with City Creek Properties. He's the brother of former Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon, and an all around good guy. I got to know him a long time ago when I was volunteering for Howard Dean's campaign locally for some high school credit (they're Dean's cousins).

Good guys! Hopefully this means there's a chance of it being the original height!
     
     
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What's a tragedy here is that this proposal proposed by Mayor Becker, back when there was the fear that Sandy would get a big theater venue, was that he initially proposed this site because it would save cost. He proposed using the existing buildings. Now, look what has happened!!! One could claim that this was a deception. I know he was trying to find an affordable solution at the time. But, seriously! a world class theater squeezed into existing buildings?! We have so many open lots in downtown, that it does not justify demolishing our existing building stock of significance. Ya, some of you don't care about those buildings, but they were of much better quality than Carl's Junior, Eat a burger, the Zephyr Club, and so on. What a shame! and what a trajic loss.
     
     
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Here are a few pictures I snapped yesterday so people can see the demolition. Lots of people watching it on their lunch breaks.
Nice Pics.. I added these to the 111 S Main thread..
     
     
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What's a tragedy here is that this proposal proposed by Mayor Becker, back when there was the fear that Sandy would get a big theater venue, was that he initially proposed this site because it would save cost. He proposed using the existing buildings. Now, look what has happened!!! One could claim that this was a deception. I know he was trying to find an affordable solution at the time. But, seriously! a world class theater squeezed into existing buildings?! We have so many open lots in downtown, that it does not justify demolishing our existing building stock of significance. Ya, some of you don't care about those buildings, but they were of much better quality than Carl's Junior, Eat a burger, the Zephyr Club, and so on. What a shame! and what a trajic loss.
This has been my criticism since the first concept renderings came out. The city should have worked out a deal with Zion's Bank to use a portion of their parking lot across the street.
     
     
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 7:57 PM
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Old Posted May 1, 2014, 8:01 PM
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Another national article about Utah being a healthy state.

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More than 100,000 Americans who die before their time every year wouldn’t have to if they just took on the habits of people living in the healthiest states, federal officials said Thursday.

Many studies show that different states have greatly different rates of heart disease, stroke, cancer and other diseases. U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention experts used data to project just how many people died prematurely, before the age of 80, from preventable causes.

“Your longevity and health are more determined by your zip code than they are by your genetic code,” CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden told reporters.

The CDC looked at five top causes of death in the U.S. in 2010 — heart disease, cancer, chronic lower respiratory diseases, stroke and accidents — and compared death rates in the top three states to the other 47. They asked what would happen if Mississippi, for instance, all of a sudden had the same premature death rates from those diseases as Utah.

“The results of this analysis indicate that, when considered separately, 91,757 deaths from diseases of the heart, 84,443 from cancer, 28,831 from chronic lower respiratory diseases, 16,973 from cerebrovascular diseases (stroke), and 36,836 from unintentional injuries potentially could be prevented each year,” the CDC team wrote.

The southeast has long been known as the “stroke belt” and doctors know why: People exercise less, eat unhealthier diets, smoke more and are less likely to have good health insurance and good medical care.

The premature death rates for some conditions vary by as much as three-fold from one state to another, Frieden said.

What makes the healthiest states better? Often public policies, said Frieden. “Their smoking rates may be half,” he said. “Their rates of blood pressure control may be substantially higher.”

Frieden said Minneapolis-St.Paul went from having average blood pressure control rates in 1996, when about 50 percent of people had healthy blood pressure, to a 75 percent control rate in 2008. “Policies make a difference,” Frieden said.

These include subsidies to help poor people buy more fruits and vegetables and limiting where people may smoke. Tough seat belt and helmet laws help prevent accidental deaths. But perhaps the biggest influence comes from encouraging exercise, with policies to build sidewalks and make school playgrounds open to the public.

“We know that even if you don’t lose any weight, being active is the closest thing we have to a wonder drug,” Frieden said.

The CDC admits that the analysis is a theoretical exercise. People who don’t die of cancer may still die of heart disease.

In the analysis, Utah actually got one score of zero — the state seemingly had no preventable deaths from cancer, and only 35 from heart disease. Connecticut had no preventable deaths from chronic lower respiratory diseases such as emphysema, and only five from stroke. Maryland apparently suffers no avoidable accidental injuries.
http://www.nbcnews.com/#/health/health-news/you-dont-need-die-just-be-utah-cdc-says-n94856
     
     
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We stay alive but we are crazy! haha

Utah has highest rate of mental illness in U.S., study says

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Utah has highest rate of mental illness in U.S., study says

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Just a theory.. About 80% of Utah's population lives on the Wasatch Front and pretty much all the Wasatch front experiences heavy inversions in the winter..

= High level of depression..
     
     
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Just a theory.. About 80% of Utah's population lives on the Wasatch Front and pretty much all the Wasatch front experiences heavy inversions in the winter..

= High level of depression..
I think it's connected to the idea of wanting the perfect lifestyle without ever really delivering. 1 in 5 Utah women are on anti-depressants. That's a pretty staggering number. I've seen it firsthand how competitive life is here - specifically from the family aspect of it. A lot of people have to feel overly pressured. It's not a coincidence Utah County has so many people on anti-depressants.
     
     
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