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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 9:37 PM
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FutureMayor-- the Encore Apartments will occupy all of the frontage of 400 South from Denver Street to 500 East meaning the demolition of the former flower shop, the Executive Suites building, the smoke shop and the small blue/gray buildings on 500 East where the tax office has been recently. The project is a great looking project and is similar in design to the Cowboy project on 200 East. It will have a 2 story parking garage and 5 levels of apartments above it. I like the project but I don't get these names that developers choose. Encore doesn't make any sense to me at all. What is it an encore of?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 10:00 PM
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Encore of the Wasatch.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 10:41 PM
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Nothing too fancy...

     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 10:50 PM
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Nothing too fancy...

Just about every publication I've seen has the Broadway towers listed taller than 222 main.


Clearly they're not in this pic. Someone should change it in the diagram page. Looks like the engineers were smoking crack when they published the height.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 10:58 PM
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If any of you are married with 3 plus children, and live in a large urban center condo/apt. or comfortable home, without having to blow your budget into bankruptcy, then please tell use how you do it. Aside of course from the fact that you have a six figure income, or inherited the property from your folks.
While it's not exactly easy, it's really not that hard, either.

While I do not have children, I am married and we live in a single family home in downtown SLC that is definitely large enough (4 BR, ~2,500 sq. ft.) for 3 children. Both of us have mid-level government jobs (read: not great-paying; together, our salaries do not equal six figures!), and we bought our house near the height of the real estate bubble in late 2006---it'd be even cheaper to buy now. As far as equating the expense of children, we currently have some very expensive hobbies that will probably be disappearing when we do decide to have children.

So how did we do it? We prioritized urban living because we both grew up in the suburbs and really wanted to be in the city. We didn't go on a vacation beyond a weekend road trip for three years so we could save enough for the down payment. We both got second jobs. We stopped dining out. We downsized cars (which living in town helped with, since we don't drive nearly as often). We bought a house that needed significant updating and lived with the ugliness for a few years. We bought in a "marginal" (then) neighborhood and watched it gentrify around us.

My point is: It's very possible if you choose to make it possible. Yes, you'll probably have to make sacrifices. And no, for your first home you won't be able to buy a renovated Victorian in the lower Avenues or a Craftsman masterpiece in 9th and 9th. But you can get a bungalow on the west or south sides of Liberty Park, or a one-and-a-half Vic in the central 9th neighborhood or Sugar Hood.

People also seem to forget that many of downtown's "smaller" houses were once home to large families, and they did just fine; my mother and her SEVEN siblings grew up around the corner from my current home, in a 2-bed, 1-bath house adjacent to Liberty Park. We, as a society, have just become absurdly accustomed to every child having his or her own bedroom and bathroom, and the adults wanting a TV room, a dining room, a formal living room, etc. When it comes down to what really makes a happy family, all that STUFF is really just so wasteful and unnecessary.

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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:17 PM
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Just about every publication I've seen has the Broadway towers listed taller than 222 main.


Clearly they're not in this pic. Someone should change it in the diagram page. Looks like the engineers were smoking crack when they published the height.
You mean American Towers? Yeah, no way are the 324 feet like listed on wikipedia and emporis. I would say they are closer to 260
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:19 PM
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It's not like Salt Lake has been devoid of families since its inception. Families have been raised in the city since its founding and those families have done all right for themselves.

My grandparents raised four daughters in Salt Lake City. My grandma, who grew up on the city's west side (over on the corner of 700 S and 900 W), had three other siblings, and, during the Great Depression, had a few family members living with her.

I get that people want bigger homes. I have no problem with that. However, the way suburbs are developed is a problem. The lack of grid, any connection between neighborhoods and minimal retail centers easily accessible by foot, has absolutely hindered things out there.

Truth be told, though, you can raise a family in Salt Lake. A lot of people do it. I understand the need to potentially live outside the city's limits, but let's not pretend the suburbs offer a better life than what you can get throughout much of Salt Lake.

With that said, I just noticed Google Maps Street View now allows you to go back to their 2007 archives, which is pretty cool if you're interested in seeing the change from 2007 to 2011.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:21 PM
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While it's not exactly easy, it's really not that hard, either.

While I do not have children, I am married and we live in a single family home in downtown SLC that is definitely large enough (4 BR, ~2,500 sq. ft.) for 3 children. Both of us have mid-level government jobs (read: not great-paying; together, our salaries do not equal six figures!), and we bought our house near the height of the real estate bubble in late 2006---it'd be even cheaper to buy now. As far as equating the expense of children, we currently have some very expensive hobbies that will probably be disappearing when we do decide to have children.

So how did we do it? We prioritized urban living because we both grew up in the suburbs and really wanted to be in the city. We didn't go on a vacation beyond a weekend road trip for three years so we could save enough for the down payment. We both got second jobs. We stopped dining out. We downsized cars (which living in town helped with, since we don't drive nearly as often). We bought a house that needed significant updating and lived with the ugliness for a few years. We bought in a "marginal" (then) neighborhood and watched it gentrify around us.

My point is: It's very possible if you choose to make it possible. Yes, you'll probably have to make sacrifices. And no, for your first home you won't be able to buy a renovated Victorian in the lower Avenues or a Craftsman masterpiece in 9th and 9th. But you can get a bungalow on the west or south sides of Liberty Park, or a one-and-a-half Vic in the central 9th neighborhood or Sugar Hood.

People also seem to forget that many of downtown's "smaller" houses were once home to large families, and they did just fine; my mother and her SEVEN siblings grew up around the corner from my current home, in a 2-bed, 1-bath house adjacent to Liberty Park. We, as a society, have just become absurdly accustomed to every child having his or her own bedroom and bathroom, and the adults wanting a TV room, a dining room, a formal living room, etc. When it comes down to what really makes a happy family, all that STUFF is really just so wasteful and unnecessary.

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5. "Key Bank Tower" 27-stories 351 FT 1976

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I received the renderings & email below from the architect:

I sent them some different images of other glass buildings with sloped or curved roofs. I guess that they liked it.

"Thank you for your input and support. We went into the meeting last night with a new design for the top of the building that incorporates a slope as you suggested. The angle compliments the slices taken off the vertical corners of the building and created a dramatic partial 19th story with walk-out rooftop garden spaces aligned with the niches. (See attached updated renderings and elevations). The planning commission really liked the building and the new top and it was approved with the peak of the roof now standing at 320 feet with a 5 feet tall parapet above that. Our thinking is to have the parapet clear glass with a night glowing ‘halo’ along the top. We are very excited about the new look and increased height. In fact, we are considering moving our office into the new penthouse suite with the rooftop patio if we can swing it with the developer."







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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:24 PM
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You mean American Towers?
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Times have changed. Not everybody wants to eat, sleep and shit in the same room.
What a ridiculous statement. I get the sense you've never even stepped foot into Salt Lake's borders when you say stupid shit like that.
     
     
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This building will put all other buildings on that block to shame.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:36 PM
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What a ridiculous statement. I get the sense you've never even stepped foot into Salt Lake's borders when you say stupid shit like that.
And.........here comes Comrade with an even more ridiculous statement.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2014, 11:43 PM
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And.........here comes Comrade with an even more ridiculous statement. Saying that times have changed is saying "stupid shit"? And you know damn well I've been to Salt Lake.

Funny you people keep bitching about how the rest of us should live. Boo Hoo. Get tired of every time I check up on this forum I feel like we are being criticize just because some of us don't live in a Urban area. You can enjoy being cluster fucked all you like. I enjoy my 2600 square foot 6 bed 2 bathroom, big yard house. Quit telling the rest of us how to live.
When have I ever told you how to live? So, not only do you like sweeping generalizations, you're an idiot who can't read. Frankly, I'm glad you don't live in Salt Lake City because the thought of you actually having any say when it comes to the future of MY city through voting and other measures would simply scare the fuck out of me.

Hey, nimrod, if you could stop patting yourself on the back for a second to actually look over what I said, I've been consistent in mentioning that I don't have a problem with people wanting bigger homes and suburban living. What I disagree with is that you can't competently raise a family within the borders of Salt Lake - which is implied with your dumb ass comments.

Live in your big house with your big yard. I don't give a fuck. But shove the snark up your ass and then go back and re-read what I had to say on the matter - that raising a family in Salt Lake is not hard and no, it doesn't automatically mean you live in a box and share a fucking outhouse.
     
     
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Times have changed. Not everybody wants to eat, sleep and shit in the same room.
When I lived in Sugar House, we lived in a 3,500 sf Craftsman with a decent-sized backyard which also had a 2-story guest house that we rented out.
     
     
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C'mon! Seriously!? Is no one going to give me credit for this? Viperlord, you took this idea to them didn't you?


"The angle compliments the slices taken off the vertical corners of the building" from tower 151 architect.

"The angles in the façade work well with the sloping of the glass parapet I am suggesting in red," quote from me.
     
     
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C'mon! Seriously!? Is no one going to give me credit for this? Viperlord, you took this idea to them didn't you?


"The angle compliments the slices taken off the vertical corners of the building" from tower 151 architect.

"The angles in the façade work well with the sloping of the glass parapet I am suggesting in red," quote from me.
I will give you 74% of the credit for the change. That's all you get.


Seriously, though, great call!
     
     
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This building will put all other buildings on that block to shame.
Except for 2nd and 2nd
     
     
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Orlando,

Before you go and begin pouting and claiming that I stole your idea you should do some research. I did my research and looked back through the forum posts....and based on what I found...
I should honestly be getting on your case for stealing my idea.
Orlando, you posted that post on "Posted Apr 18, 2014, 7:11 PM"
I sent my Email to the architect Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:10 PM from my work e-mail. I would be more than happy to email you this email as proof. Private message me with your email address and I will send it to you.
Also my idea was for a different design. Google "bank of America tower in newyork" and you'll see images of what I had in mind & that I sent to the architect.
"I thought to a similar building, (much larger scale, but similar none the less). A smaller scaled version of the roof & spire on the Bank of America Tower in
New York might be something that the City Planning Commission couldn’t say we have too many of here in SLC."

So please before you start pointing the finger and claiming me of stealing your design. THINK...and do some research so you don't look so foolish.

Thanks for your time,
     
     
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