Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[ajiuO]

I went to have a closer look at the Shyloe in yesterday... I don't know how they're going to make that look like a new hotel for $10 million... It needs a lot of work... It looks even worse up close.

First thing they need to do is cover up that hideous textured cinderblock. Then they need to remove all the gold balcony banisters... They should've remove those along time ago when the sliding glass doors were removed. And they should cut away the curve from the old balconies and make the building flush... Put in some nice floor-to-ceiling windows... Closing the emergency stairs... Do something dramatically different with the elevator... From what I've read all of the elevators sucking need to be replaced... The lower reoof line needs to be totally redone

On top of all the exterior work that needs to be done to make it look like a new hotel... I imagine that a lot of interior work needs to be done as well.


I really do hope that they get rid of the external HVAC unit... and put full-sized windows back in.... I wonder what they did for HVAC before the sliding doors were removed??? Maybe there is an internal system it could be retrofitted... Or maybe they just didn't have any HVAC back then :/

The neon lights have not been turned on in a week or two.. But they have not been removed yet :/

[SLC Projects]

Bow Ties are cool.

[Stenar]

Although it's an '80s design, the stone choice is excellent (and better than any '80s choices) which improves the overall look.

Originally Posted by H4vok

Boyer 101

[Orlando]

I think we needed an SLC beauty shot.

by Douglas Pulsipher
https://www.flickr.com/photos/utahimages/8144673919/

Okay, well that didn't work. But, there's the link for some gorgeous photos of downtown and Utah.

[ajiuO]

Does anyone know what the 2:00 A.M Sunday morning downtown fireworks show was about?

It was a bit off-the-wall and random.. to say the least :/

[H4vok]

The Hyatt House is surprisingly in-filly when you are driving by it or walking next to it. It's height isn't bad.

[ToysNoiz]

Nice photos, H4vok. Maybe the hotel could go in our building diagram.

[jedikermit]

^^^^

It is looking a lot better than I thought it would--you're right, kind of in-filly, and a good height for that street and area. Thanks for the pics H4vok!

[delts145]

Great angles H4vok! Thanks for the update. That's turned out to be a excellent project for that location.

[Future Mayor]

I drove by there the other day and the are in full foundation, re-bar and concrete mesh framework framework mode on the Marriott.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I drove by there the other day and the are in full foundation, re-bar and concrete mesh framework framework mode on the Marriott.

Hopefully the Hyatt will be finish by OR Summer 2014 and the Marriott will be ready by OR Winter 2015. The more hotel rooms Salt Lake can get online the better our odds are of keeping OR here past 2016.

[strippadam]

Does anybody know what is going to happen to the old Courtyard by Marriott location?

[H4vok]

Originally Posted by strippadam

Does anybody know what is going to happen to the old Courtyard by Marriott location?

I think I heard that they are going to re-brand it as a Residence Inn by Marriott.

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by H4vok

I think I heard that they are going to re-brand it as a Residence Inn by Marriott.

Fine, take away my hopes the Courtyard would be torn down and then the only other would be to hear the Hampton Inn was going next. Got to love suburban hotels in the heart of the city.

[utenation]

Originally Posted by StevenF

Got to love suburban hotels in the heart of the city.

This is where I do wish SLC had more building regualtions. All these second and third tier hotel-motels in the heart are eyesores.. That and full size fast food restaurants like Carl's Jr just don't belong in the heart of downtown..

Like others, I'm happy for some additional infill, especially in parking lots but there is no reason I should see a Crystal Inn down here.

It will be nice when the CCH is done to set an example before we continue to see the hotel need of the area be filled by bits and pieces suburban solutions like the Hyatt or lower level Marriott options.

[delts145]

I agree with you Utenation. It does take a while for the evolution, though I wish we could speed it up in Salt Lake a bit. I'm surprised when even here in Central L.A., which is pretty dense, they erect a surburban style hotel. the heart of Downtown though, projects are getting a lot taller these past ten years.

[Future Mayor]

It will happen eventually. Most cities, as Delts has given examples from LA, where willing to accept any sort of development for a couple of decades just to get something built and since the burbs where the dominant place that building was occurring that is the design that businesses like the Crystal Inn had. So while I'm not a fan of those suburban/off ramp style hotels, it's not as if the city just recently allowed them to be built.

Demand for downtowns has skyrocketed the past 10 years and will only continue to do so. As that demand has built up and continues to build, the city will be more able to direct design standards. This is obvious by the ESA hotels. Had those been built 15-20 years ago they would most likely be just like the Crystal Inn, but demand for land now allows them to justify taller buildings and parking garages.

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by utenation

This is where I do wish SLC had more building regualtions. All these second and third tier hotel-motels in the heart are eyesores.. That and full size fast food restaurants like Carl's Jr just don't belong in the heart of downtown..

Like others, I'm happy for some additional infill, especially in parking lots but there is no reason I should see a Crystal Inn down here.

It will be nice when the CCH is done to set an example before we continue to see the hotel need of the area be filled by bits and pieces suburban solutions like the Hyatt or lower level Marriott options.

Full-size fast food places like Carl's Jr. McDonald's absolutely belong in the heart of downtown.. Even huge city such as San Francisco have such places in the heart of downtown... They just shouldn't be in standalone suburban style buildings.. They also shouldn't have drive up windows and parking lots.

I don't think Carl's Jr. needs to go anywhere. that's actually a situation where everyone can win.. They could make a shit load off the land and included a deal where they would be able to lease space in the bottom of the skyscraper.

There's a Burger King right in the Union Square area of San Francisco that's quite a bit bigger than Carl's Jr... It just depends on how it's done... With that said.. Yeah.. The current Carl's Jr. building doesn't really work there.. But it has nothing to do with being full-sized.

[utenation]

Originally Posted by ajiuO

Full-size fast food places like Carl's Jr. McDonald's absolutely belong in the heart of downtown.. Even huge city such as San Francisco have such places in the heart of downtown... They just shouldn't be in standalone suburban style buildings.. They also shouldn't have drive up windows and parking lots.

I don't think Carl's Jr. needs to go anywhere. that's actually a situation where everyone can win.. They could make a shit load off the land and included a deal where they would be able to lease space in the bottom of the skyscraper.

There's a Burger King right in the Union Square area of San Francisco that's quite a bit bigger than Carl's Jr... It just depends on how it's done... With that said.. Yeah.. The current Carl's Jr. building doesn't really work there.. But it has nothing to do with being full-sized.

Key words: "Full Size" meaning parking lots and drive throughs.

I don't mind urban versions of these places(see Denver) at all. There needs to be cheaper-fast food options in a downtown but when you are trying to make and promote a city as green-walkable, a full size parking lot with drive through is just ugly. Fine for burbs but not on State and 2nd.

We've discussed the ownership situation of this and Eye-Sore Burger on this board several times. IMO, owners like this are not in tune with the changing marketplace and should either develop or sell.. Boarding up buildings that need to be comdemned or take a blind eye to the development going on around them should be penalized and regulated.

This is what a downtown fast food model should be:





There is plenty of space on Main, 1st, 2nd and 3rd south for this. The demand is there.

[ToysNoiz]

I ate at several of those little restaurants in Washington DC. They were awesome. All city cores need these in building bases.