PITTSBURGH | Development Rundown II

[Wave]

Originally Posted by Evergrey

The developer of Shadyside's Bovie House house has purchased a couple key properties in East Liberty...

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...tys-next-property-to-watch.html?page=all

This is a primo-primo piece of ground in East Liberty. Probably the best undeveloped large location left. I have watched these parcels wondering when a developer would move in. His previous work is on the weak side in terms of design but has been relatively small. This would represent his largest development by far and at least he has the right idea in terms of size/height:

Here is the money quote:

"With his most recent project the almost fully leased Bovie House apartments on Ellsworth Avenue, Lardo told me it’s too early to offer specifics of what he would like to develop on the property. But he sees strong prospects for it as a retail location as well as for residential on a site he expects he could build as high as six stories in what easily could be a multi-million-dollar development project. Office space could also be a possibility, he said."

[SkyPittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Wave

This is a primo-primo piece of ground in East Liberty. Probably the best undeveloped large location left. I have watched these parcels wondering when a developer would move in.

Along with those parcels, I've always wondered when someone is going to develop this hodge-podge of parcels http://tinyurl.com/kvgwgav. It really serves as a gateway to East Liberty and currently, a paint supplier and gravel isn't the most attractive entrance.

[Austinlee]

Originally Posted by Evergrey

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...nstitution-is-optimistic-pittsburgh.html

Interesting read.

[Don't Be That Guy]

Originally Posted by SkyPittsburgh

Along with those parcels, I've always wondered when someone is going to develop this hodge-podge of parcels http://tinyurl.com/kvgwgav. It really serves as a gateway to East Liberty and currently, a paint supplier and gravel isn't the most attractive entrance.

It will develop as soon as AAA decides to sell it.
The word is they have been sitting on those parcels and parking lots for a very long time and have rebuffed numerous offers by many developers over the past 10 years.

[markson33]

AAA has never been willing to sell. Many people have tried, but from what I understand they haven't budged.

[themaguffin]

It's that time of year again. I pasted metro counties, plus a few central western counties.... and Erie and Philly... it's messy, sorry, but you should be able to paste in excel.


Census 2010 2011 2012 2013
Allegheny 1,223,348 1,223,749 1,227,308 1,229,912 1,231,527
Westmoreland 365,169 365,054 364,466 363,233 362,437
Washington 207,820 207,902 208,103 208,451 208,206
Butler 183,862 184,042 184,734 185,084 185,476
Beaver 170,539 170,596 170,400 170,274 170,115
Fayette 136,606 136,482 136,128 135,668 134,999
Armstrong 68,941 68,833 68,644 68,367 68,107
Lawrence 91,108 91,000 90,382 89,766 89,333
Blair 127,089 127,020 127,200 127,004 126,314
Cambria 143,679 143,447 142,568 141,541 140,499
Centre 153,990 154,152 154,594 155,100 155,403
Indiana 88,880 88,797 88,497 88,143 87,745
Somerset 77,742 77,696 77,350 77,115 76,520
Erie 280,566 280,715 280,921 280,823 280,294
Philadelphia 1,526,006 1,528,516 1,538,497 1,548,647 1,553,165

[eschaton]

So, things seem a bit dead here, so I thought I'd post a graphic I did showing the location of residential structures downtown.



Key:

Pink - Apartments
Green - Condo buildings
Teal - Student Housing (mostly Point Park, but one Art Institute building)
Dark grey - non residential
Light grey - parking garages
Black - parking lots and other open space

[Urbana]

Reworking of the Wholefoods expansion:



From the latest Planning Commission presentation.

http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/dcp/schedule51/presentation-51-517.pdf

[Found5dollar]

Originally Posted by Urbana

Reworking of the Wholefoods expansion:



From the latest Planning Commission presentation.

http://apps.pittsburghpa.gov/dcp/schedule51/presentation-51-517.pdf

There one other new thing in the planning commission presentation is a renovation at 5921-5923 Baum in East Liberty. The building stays one story, but will house a hair salon and yoga studio. Looks like it will be a slick little renovation.


I am still really put off by the Whole foods expansion. They made really no changes to their earlier design, just a prettier rendering. We need streetwall here and more storefronts, not open parking deck. You can have as much parking as you like, just put it behind things that activate the sidewalk.

[Wave]

Awesome map...shows a lot of opportunity for both residential and conversion of open space but also the fact that residential is truly taking hold in a big way in the cultural district, market Sq. and even Firstside (primarily with Point Park student housing). I feel like Firstside is screaming for residential conversions and development. So many good opportunities there. One minor item....the Pennsylvanian (Penn Station) is shown as green (condo) but I believe it is actually a rental apartment property (pink). It would be interesting to note hotel properties too as they essentially are (temprorary) residences, add to the after hours "energy" of an area & can significantly contribute to the livability of an area.

Originally Posted by eschaton

So, things seem a bit dead here, so I thought I'd post a graphic I did showing the location of residential structures downtown.



Key:

Pink - Apartments
Green - Condo buildings
Teal - Student Housing (mostly Point Park, but one Art Institute building)
Dark grey - non residential
Light grey - parking garages
Black - parking lots and other open space

[photoLith]

From a minute ago


The gardens site

[Johnland]

Originally Posted by Wave

Awesome map...shows a lot of opportunity for both residential and conversion of open space but also the fact that residential is truly taking hold in a big way in the cultural district, market Sq. and even Firstside (primarily with Point Park student housing). I feel like Firstside is screaming for residential conversions and development. So many good opportunities there. One minor item....the Pennsylvanian (Penn Station) is shown as green (condo) but I believe it is actually a rental apartment property (pink). It would be interesting to note hotel properties too as they essentially are (temprorary) residences, add to the after hours "energy" of an area & can significantly contribute to the livability of an area.

I like Firstside too and think it has a great vibe going on there. It's like Pittsburgh's version of Philly's Old City in a way - very old, narrow streets, near the river.

[Austinlee]

What do you guys mean by firstside? I thought that was just one building by PNC...

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by Austinlee

What do you guys mean by firstside? I thought that was just one building by PNC...

I think that it means the length of First Avenue and Ft. Pitt Boulevard. All those awesome lowrise office buildings facing the Mon.

[Found5dollar]

Originally Posted by Austinlee

What do you guys mean by firstside? I thought that was just one building by PNC...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firstside_Historic_District

[Johnland]

The name is a reference to that area's place as the first prominent riverside in the city's history. The Mon wharf was the major place of riverfront activity. All of that is just historical fact since I-376 wiped it out.

[Found5dollar]

this just popped up on my facebook news feed.



That looks like a new render behind. anyone going?

[Jonboy1983]

Originally Posted by Found5dollar

this just popped up on my facebook news feed.



That looks like a new render behind. anyone going?

I believe that "new render" behind that is actual construction either already underway or is about to be pretty soon. It's a mix of residential and ground-level restaurant/retail use IIRC...

[SkyPittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Jonboy1983

I believe that "new render" behind that is actual construction either already underway or is about to be pretty soon. It's a mix of residential and ground-level restaurant/retail use IIRC...

Yeah, the original drawings showed a surface parking lot and a garage on the North side of the site. However, that was denied by an agency involved, so they moved to 2 stories of underground parking, three residential/office buildings, a "plaza" and a bunch of other improvements. (Knowledge obtained from project website, as well as Planning Commission Drawings)

[Found5dollar]

by :new render" i meant that i hadn't seen an image of the actual transit center that looked like that image, not the buildings in the background of the image. The last image i remember seeing is this one:



or the whole set at this site: http://studiofsp.com/urbanism/east-liberty-station/