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Old Posted Mar 21, 2014, 5:34 PM
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A bill has been passed by City Council to rezone the site for this tower:

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/03/2...il-rezones-for-comcast-and-dranoff-hotel
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2014, 10:02 PM
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Not sure if anyone's pointed this out yet, but this looks a ton like the Vietcombank Tower in Ho Chi Minh City:

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Not sure if anyone's pointed this out yet, but this looks a ton like the Vietcombank Tower in Ho Chi M inh City:

^Yes, it does..quite a bit actually. This thread has discussed setbacks to the current design of Comcast. This is a very likeness that some of the bloggers have referred to. Notice the similarity? FMC has the same architects on their headquarters, as well. Pelli Clarke Pelli. I like their work..a lot. They seem to have that "sleek design" look. I think Comcast was trying to stick to more an Industrial look. Foster satisfied them obviously.
Below is the website for Pelli Clarke Pelli. There are some beautiful renderings, including our own FMC Headquarters.

http://pcparch.com/news/post/pelli-clarke-pelli-architects-to-design-vietcombank-tower
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2014, 2:19 PM
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^ That would of complimented Bell Atlantic tower.
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ahhh, the beautiful geometric reliefs and spires of art deco updated with a curtain wall, just a timeless design feature.

It is very tough to call a design a copy of another nowadays, as we witness a design-aesthetic natural selection; the best design features and ornamentation throughout history have survived, been refined, and integrated with one another. Essentially that is why post-modernism is the mutt of architectural styles, completely lacking identity. I call for a tasteful return to modernism.
Or at least that's what my Drexel architecture professors say.
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chysler building

Helmut Jahn who was the principle designer of One Liberty Place and a student of Mies van der Rohe said One Liberty Place was Miesian but more free, i.e., free to use color, free to articulate form outside of the stricture of extreme rectilinearity and free to suggest some level of historicism. One Liberty Place has blue granite and aluminum and glass that takes on a variety of colors depending on sun light and atmospheric conditions, a complex series of converging chevrons that suggest a reinterpretation of the Chysler


The Modernism of the first 60 or 70 years of the 20th c. was totally exhausted by 1980 since it had to operate in a narrow set of rules that cut this architectural movement off from 2500 years of Western architectural history.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2014, 6:19 PM
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Helmut Jahn who was the principle designer of One Liberty Place and a student of Mies van der Rohe said One Liberty Place was Miesian but more free, i.e., free to use color, free to articulate form outside of the stricture of extreme rectilinearity and free to suggest some level of historicism. One Liberty Place has blue granite and aluminum and glass that takes on a variety of colors depending on sun light and atmospheric conditions, a complex series of converging chevrons that suggest a reinterpretation of the Chysler


The Modernism of the first 60 or 70 years of the 20th c. was totally exhausted by 1980 since it had to operate in a narrow set of rules that cut this architectural movement off from 2500 years of Western architectural history.
The previous 2500 years celebrated ornament, which to some, is not true architecture, but advanced graphic design. That is why le Corbusier wanted to evolve the art into something more meaningful and thought provoking. Modernism was exhausted because architects weren't thinking hard enough within those rules; the profession lost its artistic identity over code and politics. Modernism was meant to be sooooo much more meaningful than what it fatefully turned into by the 80's; alas his original ideals of design were lost and overrefined, instead of evolved, by the post war boxes. I fully support the freedom of material choice as long as it doesn't overtake the identity of the design.
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Those are some nice renders....WOW!!!
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Absolutely gorgeous!
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summersm343, you are no doubt the best.
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The .pdf is amazing and full of every detail and rendering you could want to know about the building, but the elevation rendering toward the middle end shows how significantly lower CITC roof height is to the currently existing Comcast Tower. CITC's roof height is 911 feet and 6 inches.

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/projec...h_CDR%20Application_April%209%202014.pdf

Another 90 feet of increased roof height would make it perfect.
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The .pdf is amazing and full of every detail and rendering you could want to know about the building, but the elevation rendering toward the middle end shows how significantly lower CITC roof height is to the currently existing Comcast Tower. CITC's roof height is 911 feet and 6 inches.

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/projec...h_CDR%20Application_April%209%202014.pdf

Another 90 feet of increased roof height would make it perfect.
I noticed that but keep in mind how thick the bottom portion of the spire (cooling towers) is... almost like a second roof at about 1000 feet, the top of the spire is also pretty thick.

It will be an amazing addition to the skyline to say the least.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2014, 12:25 AM
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I noticed that but keep in mind how thick the bottom portion of the spire (cooling towers) is... almost like a second roof at about 1000 feet, the top of the spire is also pretty thick.

It will be an amazing addition to the skyline to say the least.
You are correct. At 995’ 6”, the top of the cooling tower portion is 20 feet taller than the Comcast Center.

The building itself is nothing short of amazing. Just that little bit of extra height would throw it over the top.
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I concur with others

I am absolutely starting to love this building. The more I look at the renderings, the more it looks like an Asian skyscraper. I could see this thing in Beijing, Guangzhou, Kuala Lumpur, or Hong Kong. I get that it's a British Design firm, but this looks Asian to me.

I think it really, really cool that Philadelphia is getting a building of this caliber.
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I am absolutely starting to love this building. The more I look at the renderings, the more it looks like an Asian skyscraper. I could see this thing in Beijing, Guangzhou, Kuala Lumpur, or Hong Kong. I get that it's a British Design firm, but this looks Asian to me.

I think it really, really cool that Philadelphia is getting a building of this caliber.
A lot of new US skyscrapers look like they could be Asian to me which I'm very happy about because I absolutely love most Asian skyscrapers.
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This rendering makes CITC appear taller than CC. I almost want a peitition to add 100 feet to the main roof but I know that it would be POINTLESS. I'll take it.

I could also see this building in Chicago. It has a slight Sears (willis) vibe
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2014, 3:51 AM
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My favorite part about these new renders is it shows a resemblance to both the original Comcast Center and Liberty Place 1. It seems like a nice mesh of the two.
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Could it be, btw, that Comcast doesn't want the building's roof to be taller because it will allow you to see the ugly roof of the Comcast Center from the roofdeck?
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