ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 491

Zanarkand A East · #**9801** Posted **Mar 19, 2014, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by briantech

They look at you oddly because you have odd perceptions of neighborhoods

I think the vast majority of intown people consider "downtown" to stop pretty sharply at the I85/75 connector. Anything east of it is O4W, to the beltline; Anything east of that is Inman Park. (until you hit candler park. and so on.)

Neighborhoods are subjective, unless you're talking about NPU borders and which flags are in the windows, so it's probably pointless to discuss it further. Meanwhile, you seem to have forgotten all about Bedford-Pine aka 4th Ward West.

pawelra · #**9802** Posted **Mar 19, 2014, 9:25 PM**

[QUOTE=Zanarkand A East;6501561]MMPT porn, anyone?

Georgia MultiModal Passenger Terminal on Vimeo

YES this is so beautiful and would be awesome for Atlanta but unfortunately things like that are only possible in China not in USA any more. I hope I'm wrong.

briantech · #**9803** Posted **Mar 19, 2014, 10:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

Meanwhile, you seem to have forgotten all about Bedford-Pine aka 4th Ward West.

ooof ... I think we'd all love to completely forget about Bedford-Pine ...

TarHeelJ · #**9804** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

I'm aware of the difference between Midtown and Historic Midtown (I'm from Atlanta), but most people have a larger concept of Midtown at this point, e.g. Emory Hospital Midtown, which is downtown as far as I'm concerned. "Historic" Midtown is becoming an historic concept, thanks to how much the area has grown.

I was responding to this comment: "I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood...". Midtown is definitely a neighborhood, and anyone from Atlanta should probably not make that comment. Historic Midtown is a wonderful neighborhood comparable to any other and shouldn't be overlooked.

Atlanta3000 · #**9805** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:30 AM**

AMLI Arts Center

1240 W Peachtree St NW Atlanta, GA 30309

351 residential units / 3,400sf retail

AtlantaMustang · #**9806** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:39 AM**

Took these today.

Center for Civil and Human Rights:

Spring Street Student Housing:

This will fill this spot out nicely.

The core and some structure is starting to rise.

And a bonus development on Tech campus. The real reason I was out is I wanted to see it, haha.

The majestic ech Tower:

AtlantaMustang · #**9807** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

AMLI Arts Center

1240 W Peachtree St NW Atlanta, GA 30309

351 residential units / 3,400sf retail

Awesome, thanks for posting. Do you have a source? Link?

RocketSurgeon · #**9808** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 2:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Awesome, thanks for posting. Do you have a source? Link?

It came from this page: http://www.midtownatl.com/business/development-tour

Sooo frustrating when these tiny images float around! I can't tell what any of that actually is

This is the (new) 15th Street elevation. It looks like there might be some retail on Spring (unless that's only to conceal the garage), and perhaps on 15th too.

AtlantaMustang · #**9809** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 3:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

It came from this page: http://www.midtownatl.com/business/development-tour

Sooo frustrating when these tiny images float around! I can't tell what any of that actually is

This is the (new) 15th Street elevation. It looks like there might be some retail on Spring (unless that's only to conceal the garage), and perhaps on 15th too.

Thanks a lot for the link. Unfortunately there's only going to be 3400 sf of retail in this one according to that link. Compare that to Skyhouse Midtown at 8400 sf. I imagine most if not all of the retail will aim itself toward West Peachtree, although I hope like you that we get some on another street.

Ant131531 · #**9810** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 5:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

AMLI Arts Center

1240 W Peachtree St NW Atlanta, GA 30309

351 residential units / 3,400sf retail

Looks like the typical 30 story tower going up these days...not that excited, but good to see the spot being developed on.

bryantm3 · #**9811** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 9:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Thanks a lot for the link. Unfortunately there's only going to be 3400 sf of retail in this one according to that link. Compare that to Skyhouse Midtown at 8400 sf. I imagine most if not all of the retail will aim itself toward West Peachtree, although I hope like you that we get some on another street.

the first presentation they did had the garage backing up to spring with very small retail spaces fronting spring. there will be some retail fronting west peachtree, but the building is a giant "L" from above, with the parking deck forming the vertical part of the L. there will only be a little bit of the building actually fronting west peachtree; most of it is set back from west peachtree, where the curb cut is. i think they are leaving that gap so they can use that part of the lot later, à la viewpoint.

the view you're looking at in the rendering is looking north from the future 15th street, which is actually where most of the active use will be.

chris08876 · #**9812** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 10:11 AM**

[QUOTE=pawelra;6501700]

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

MMPT porn, anyone?

Georgia MultiModal Passenger Terminal on Vimeo

YES this is so beautiful and would be awesome for Atlanta but unfortunately things like that are only possible in China not in USA any more. I hope I'm wrong.

I just used the proper BBCode so that its easier to see on the thread vs clicking the link.

Video Link

bigstick · #**9813** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 11:24 AM**

[QUOTE=chris08876;6502429]

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Originally Posted by pawelra

I just used the proper BBCode so that its easier to see on the thread vs clicking the link.

Video Link

That is astounding.

Also what is the Spring Street Student Housing going to look like and how tall? Thanks

Tuckerman · #**9814** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:36 PM**

The multimodel terminal video is about as fanciful and unrealistic as one can get. I would estimate the probability of anything remotely like this as close to 0 in the lifetime of anyone who is now viewing skyscraperpage.

SteveD · #**9815** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tuckerman

The multimodel terminal video is about as fanciful and unrealistic as one can get. I would estimate the probability of anything remotely like this as close to 0 in the lifetime of anyone who is now viewing skyscraperpage.

Sadly I agree. I was just going to post something very similar but you beat me to it.

AtlantaMustang · #**9816** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 12:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by bryantm3

the first presentation they did had the garage backing up to spring with very small retail spaces fronting spring. there will be some retail fronting west peachtree, but the building is a giant "L" from above, with the parking deck forming the vertical part of the L. there will only be a little bit of the building actually fronting west peachtree; most of it is set back from west peachtree, where the curb cut is. i think they are leaving that gap so they can use that part of the lot later, à la viewpoint.

the view you're looking at in the rendering is looking north from the future 15th street, which is actually where most of the active use will be.

Interesting, thanks for the info. This is definitely better than I expected with only 3400 sf of retail. Great news.

I think the reason they that they aren't fronting much of West Peachtree may be because that northern lot belongs to Arts Center Tower? I know their retail spaces use it. I really wanna see a site plan of this one. The execution of these developments around the Marta stations I feel is very important long term.

Zanarkand A East · #**9817** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 1:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

I was responding to this comment: "I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood...". Midtown is definitely a neighborhood, and anyone from Atlanta should probably not make that comment. Historic Midtown is a wonderful neighborhood comparable to any other and shouldn't be overlooked.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

Using the general Midtown or Downtown umbrellas, I'd say V-Hi is a Midtown neighborhood and P-Hi is a downtown one (although both are very close to DeKalb). They have their own flavor, but I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood on the same level as them, moreso a larger area. People look at me oddly when I say that O4W and Inman Park are downtown neighborhoods, but they seem to think "downtown" is only the capitol building or Peachtree Center.

It'd be great if you could quote all of what I said, which meant something else entirely

Anyone quoting my comment should probably not quote just part of my comment. Historic Midtown is a neighborhood. My point is that the greater Midtown area is something larger than a neighborhood.

Zanarkand A East · #**9818** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 1:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by briantech

ooof ... I think we'd all love to completely forget about Bedford-Pine ...

Um, ok...

PremierAtlanta · #**9819** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 2:46 PM**

Finally a rendering of the Amli residential tower. I actually like it. Didn't I read that there is soil testing going on at the site? The extension of 15th Street will be a real benefit to the area.

RocketSurgeon · #**9820** Posted **Mar 20, 2014, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by PremierAtlanta

Didn't I read that there is soil testing going on at the site?

Yes, someone said there was. I have a feeling this will start soon, but with the site being such a steep grade and having an existing parking lot it's probably going to require a lot of prep before the tower starts going up. I pass by there pretty frequently so if I see any activity I'll be sure to post about it.