ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[micropundit]

Elan Five Points is a $54 million project proposed near the Edgewood Retail District. The development would include 285 apartments and 16,000 square feet of ground-level retail, fronting Moreland and wrapping around on either side to Wade Street and Seaboard Avenue. An April 2016 completion date is currently projected.

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2014/...e-for-edgewood-mixeduse-project.php#more

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by micropundit

Elan Five Points is a $54 million project proposed near the Edgewood Retail District. The development would include 285 apartments and 16,000 square feet of ground-level retail, fronting Moreland and wrapping around on either side to Wade Street and Seaboard Avenue. An April 2016 completion date is currently projected.

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2014/...e-for-edgewood-mixeduse-project.php#more

More like Elan Little Five Points. This reminds me of when bestbuy.com referred to the Best Buy at Edgewood Retail District as the "Midtown" branch

[sunking1056]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

More like Elan Little Five Points. This reminds me of when bestbuy.com referred to the Best Buy at Edgewood Retail District as the "Midtown" branch

Not even. This project is in Reynoldstown. That name is awful.

[Frankster87]

Originally Posted by sunking1056

Not even. This project is in Reynoldstown. That name is awful.

Interesting that they would use this name, given the negative stigma associated with 5 Points.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by Frankster87

Interesting that they would use this name, given the negative stigma associated with 5 Points.

I'm sure the reference is to Little 5 Points, don't you think? In that area of town it has to be. Other than the name the development looks pretty decent.

[megalopolis]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

The corner of 11th and Piedmont.

http://midtown.patch.com/groups/business...proposed-for-10th-street-hole-in-midtown

This could make one of the most active intersections in midtown, 10th and Piedmont, even more lively.

This was supposed to be on the agenda at the Atlanta Zoning Review Board's meeting on March 13th. I went to their website the next day to see what happened, and it said rescheduled to April. Ugh.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

More like Elan Little Five Points. This reminds me of when bestbuy.com referred to the Best Buy at Edgewood Retail District as the "Midtown" branch

it seems like as intown continues to densify, distances seem a lot farther because there's so much in one space. for example, twenty years ago virginia-highland and poncey-highland could have been considered part of midtown. now that there has been so much development, the two areas seem very distinct and separate from each other.

[scania]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

it seems like as intown continues to densify, distances seem a lot farther because there's so much in one space. for example, twenty years ago virginia-highland and poncey-highland could have been considered part of midtown. now that there has been so much development, the two areas seem very distinct and separate from each other.

I'll have to disagree on that one. We never considered Va. Highland to be Midtown. It's a little too close to Druid Hills and the Dekalb County line to be thought of as Midtown.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by scania

I'll have to disagree on that one. We never considered Va. Highland to be Midtown. It's a little too close to Druid Hills and the Dekalb County line to be thought of as Midtown.

We lived in Virginia-Highland in the 70s and always thought of it as distinct from Midtown. They're in different NPUs (E for Midtown, F for Virginia Highland).

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by sunking1056

Not even. This project is in Reynoldstown. That name is awful.

Obviously, but L5P makes more sense than Five Points or Midtown. My point was if they're going to be wrong, at least be a-few-blocks-away wrong. I prefer Elan Reynoldstown too.

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by scania

I'll have to disagree on that one. We never considered Va. Highland to be Midtown. It's a little too close to Druid Hills and the Dekalb County line to be thought of as Midtown.

But it's so close to Piedmont Park that I could see how people would think so. I mean the actual intersection of Virginia and Higland. But the south part of V-Hi does feel much more like DeKalb to me.

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

it seems like as intown continues to densify, distances seem a lot farther because there's so much in one space. for example, twenty years ago virginia-highland and poncey-highland could have been considered part of midtown. now that there has been so much development, the two areas seem very distinct and separate from each other.

Using the general Midtown or Downtown umbrellas, I'd say V-Hi is a Midtown neighborhood and P-Hi is a downtown one (although both are very close to DeKalb). They have their own flavor, but I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood on the same level as them, moreso a larger area. People look at me oddly when I say that O4W and Inman Park are downtown neighborhoods, but they seem to think "downtown" is only the capitol building or Peachtree Center.

[briantech]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

Using the general Midtown or Downtown umbrellas, I'd say V-Hi is a Midtown neighborhood and P-Hi is a downtown one (although both are very close to DeKalb). They have their own flavor, but I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood on the same level as them, moreso a larger area. People look at me oddly when I say that O4W and Inman Park are downtown neighborhoods, but they seem to think "downtown" is only the capitol building or Peachtree Center.

They look at you oddly because you have odd perceptions of neighborhoods

I think the vast majority of intown people consider "downtown" to stop pretty sharply at the I85/75 connector. Anything east of it is O4W, to the beltline; Anything east of that is Inman Park. (until you hit candler park. and so on.)

[Tuckerman]

While I see most of these neighborhoods as pretty distinct and I would never really think of ViHi as Midtown, it does almost border midtown. in any case, while walking on the Eastside part of the Beltline I was struck by how everything seems so close together. i had never thought of Piedmont Park as being close to North Highland and the Inman Park areas, but when you walk the Beltline the connection seems short. Increasing density and build up tends to make what appear to be discrete areas kind of blend together. That is how and why I now view Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead and even the Perimeter as an emerging CBD of the future ATL.

[AtlantaMustang]

I know this is still kinda a vision, but here's some new MMPT renders from Curbed:





















And here's the link to the article:
http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2014/03/19/multimodal-terminal-vision-will-blow-your-mind.php

I can't tell if they're brand new or not though, considering they still show the current Dome.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

While I see most of these neighborhoods as pretty distinct and I would never really think of ViHi as Midtown, it does almost border midtown. in any case, while walking on the Eastside part of the Beltline I was struck by how everything seems so close together. i had never thought of Piedmont Park as being close to North Highland and the Inman Park areas, but when you walk the Beltline the connection seems short. Increasing density and build up tends to make what appear to be discrete areas kind of blend together. That is how and why I now view Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead and even the Perimeter as an emerging CBD of the future ATL.

That's an excellent observation.

Traveling on foot (or by bike) really does provide a different perspective. That always struck me in the old days when the Peachtree ran from the Buckhead village to Five Points.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

Using the general Midtown or Downtown umbrellas, I'd say V-Hi is a Midtown neighborhood and P-Hi is a downtown one (although both are very close to DeKalb). They have their own flavor, but I don't consider Midtown to be a neighborhood on the same level as them, moreso a larger area. People look at me oddly when I say that O4W and Inman Park are downtown neighborhoods, but they seem to think "downtown" is only the capitol building or Peachtree Center.

The "Midtown" neighborhood is Historic Midtown...very different from the Midtown highrise district that is associated with the name today. VA-HI is not part of either Midtown, but a totally separate area. I would never consider it to be a Midtown neighborhood.

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

The "Midtown" neighborhood is Historic Midtown...very different from the Midtown highrise district that is associated with the name today. VA-HI is not part of either Midtown, but a totally separate area. I would never consider it to be a Midtown neighborhood.

I think they might mean it in a more associative way, as in maybe Old Fourth Ward and Edgewood seem to be associated more closely to Downtown, in the same way that one may think of Ansley Park and VaHi more closely related to Midtown. It doesn't matter, it's just a perspective, and if we want a long discussion about it someone should create a thread.

[Zanarkand A East]

MMPT porn, anyone?

Georgia MultiModal Passenger Terminal on Vimeo

Multi-Modal Terminal Vision Will Blow Your Mind (Curbed)

[Zanarkand A East]

Originally Posted by TarHeelJ

The "Midtown" neighborhood is Historic Midtown...very different from the Midtown highrise district that is associated with the name today. VA-HI is not part of either Midtown, but a totally separate area. I would never consider it to be a Midtown neighborhood.

I'm aware of the difference between Midtown and Historic Midtown (I'm from Atlanta), but most people have a larger concept of Midtown at this point, e.g. Emory Hospital Midtown, which is downtown as far as I'm concerned. "Historic" Midtown is becoming an historic concept, thanks to how much the area has grown.