Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[nname]

Originally Posted by jhausner

Do you have a link to the info on these changes? I know it is off the topic of this thread but I'd like to take a read aka frequencies and the stop changes.

Maybe you can just PM it to me if you have it. If not is the info in another thread?

Maybe the discussion here and here.

Anyways, the change would happen on April.

Originally Posted by dpogue

The quality is terrible because of upload issues and the rain on the train windows, but here's a video from this morning showing the extent of guideway construction.

In case you can't see from the video.. both guideway now crosses over North Road and is already on the center median. Seems like they are already on the last girder section before the concrete guideway now. This seems really fast consider my last post was from my observation less than 24 hours ago...

[officedweller]

Some [out-of-date] pics from the Evergreen Facebook page:


https://www.facebook.com/evergreenline/photos_stream


https://www.facebook.com/evergreenline/photos_stream

[queetz@home]

Thanks again for the pics and video! Its very helpful. I suppose they do need to get their butts moving since it is already March 5, and they do need to get whatever necessary work done on those guideways so White Spot can reopen this month. I am curious to see the area myself, but next week will be the earliest that I could be in the area.

The TBM side of things seems to be a little delayed, since they did say it should be ready by Feb, which was last month. Hopefully it should start fairly soon as well.

[jsbertram]

TBM pit camera here:

http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/R1_Transit

camera: [ north portal camera ]
view: [ north portal construction ]

you can can jump to the other camera sites, and waste a lot of time with the time-lapse buttons.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by dpogue

The quality is terrible because of upload issues and the rain on the train windows, but here's a video from this morning showing the extent of guideway construction.

Thanks for the videos.

I'm wondering if a view from the 'rail fan' seat at the front of the train will show anything while the train is still on North Road (before swinging west as it is arriving at Lougheed).

[queetz@home]

For those that are extremely impatient to wait for our usual photographers (i.e. madog222, Skyscrapercity's Yellow Fever) or Grant Mattice to provide us with updates on what the special guideways look like from North Road, the bcnews video on YouTube has them.

Its dated as of March 3, so three days old. A lot of us do find the differences in height between inbound and outbound so weird because of the view from seeing it from dpogue's videos from the Skytrain. But the special guideways actually looks pretty good from North Road.

The Lougheed Station special guideways are shown at around 30:10 or so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUP7ASppOtY

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[dpogue]

Going by Lougheed tonight, it looks like the two guideways are now crossing Austin Road, and at the point of being level with each other. I suspect they're done as far as steel girders and the rest will be concrete.

[xd_1771]

Christy Clark doing an announcement this morning re: Evergreen Line, 9:45

Livestream here
http://globalnews.ca/news/1194299/watch-...announcement-this-morning-in-port-moody/

[dpogue]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

Thanks for the videos.

I'm wondering if a view from the 'rail fan' seat at the front of the train will show anything while the train is still on North Road (before swinging west as it is arriving at Lougheed).

Video captured this morning.

[nname]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Christy Clark doing an announcement this morning re: Evergreen Line, 9:45

Livestream here
http://globalnews.ca/news/1194299/watch-...announcement-this-morning-in-port-moody/

Well, we get to see the completed north portal from the press conference..

Haven't started yet, but probably something about the start of the TBM operation...

[xd_1771]

So by far, she's announced that the TBM is named Alice.....
Also, she just announced the travel time from Coquitlam to Lougheed at 13 minutes (I think they previously used 15 minutes)

[Prometheus]

I really do apologize if this has already been explained, but would anyone mind explaining (possibly again) why there is a height differential between the two Evergreen tracks, even though no crossover is taking place?

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

I really do apologize if this has already been explained, but would anyone mind explaining (possibly again) why there is a height differential between the two Evergreen tracks, even though no crossover is taking place?

There is no good reason for this, just several really bad reasons based on some geometries that were built into Lougheed Station years ago. Apparently no one ever heard of a jackhammer or a concrete saw to fix it properly, so the elaborate elevated track is the workaround solution.

[nname]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

So by far, she's announced that the TBM is named Alice.....
Also, she just announced the travel time from Coquitlam to Lougheed at 13 minutes (I think they previously used 15 minutes)

Depend on where she meant for "Coqutlam" - Coquitlam Central or Lafarge Lake.. If it is Coquitlam Central, then the travel time actually increases from 12 to 13min.

This is the travel time estimated from RTM:

Lougheed -> Burquitlam 2:16, 12s dwell
Burquitlam -> Queens -> Moody 4:16, 15s dwell
Moody -> Inlet 1:53, 12s dwell
Inlet -> Coquitlam 2:14, 15s dwell
Coquitlam -> Lincoln 1:17, 12s dwell
Lincoln -> Guildford 1:19

So put them into a table:

Lougheed
 3 Burquitlam
 7  5 Moody
 9  7  2 Inlet
12  9  5  3 Coquitlam
13 11  6  4  2 Lincoln
15 12  8  6  3  2 Lafarge

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by lightrail

So when the Skytrain line opens, I realy hope Translink will hire a graphic designer and come up with a decent system map. Here are three all depicting the same service patterns:

This is my favourite - three line system. Makes branding stations easier (can be coloured coded to the line), avoids needing to rebrand Millenium Line stations as Evergreen Line (and changing the colour) and simplifies waywinding. On board announcements are simple - just "This train is for Lougheed" for example.


This one is keeping the current system but adding the Evergreen Line - will require changing all Millennium stations to Evergreen, including changing the station colour schemes to match, or leave it and confuse the public.


This one simply splits the Canada Line into two to be consistent with the current Expo and Millennium line


So what do you think?

The first is much preferred, because it avoids not only rebranding the existing M-Line, but also the potential confusion of having 2 separate (and intersecting) lines both starting with the letter 'E.'

So far as I know, TransLink has already chosen a branding and colour scheme for the "Evergreen Line" such that we seem headed for the second case.

The third has logic, but when has that ever mattered in rapid transit?

[nname]

The Evergreen Line Multimodal Integration Project has this item:

• wayfinding improvements across the rapid transit system to inform customers of the new operating pattern and enhance navigation.

So I guess any rebranding is probably already included in the budget. As far as I know, they want to standardize the signs across all SkyTrain stations (beside Canada Line) to the same new standard now used in New Westminster (large blue station sign at entrance, white sign with color strips at bottom to indicate line of operation, platform numbers, operating pattern map at platform, the big T, etc, as shown in this document). So they would probably have to change all the signs anyways.

Some of the Expo stations already have the dual Expo/Millennium Line signs. They would have to replace them if the first options is used.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Did Christy annouce anything other than the TBM name?

[Zassk]

The cost of signs is incidental in a project of this size.

[idunno]

^^Looking at that wayfinding document, it appears that platform signs along the Evergreen Line will say 'Evergreen Line to Lougheed Town Centre,' rather than 'Millenium Line' or rather than even 'Evergreen Line to VCC-Clark.' Interesting.

[Olden Retreiver]

On International Women's Day, the TBM has been christened "Alice," in honour or Dr. Alice Wilson:

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/trailblazers/alice-wilson/3443