Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[DCRes]

I had an interesting conversation with a good freind who works with one of the major utility companies in Salt Lake. He said that he had a meeting with the city on the 111 S Main project and they said that Hamilton Partners is no longer developing the project, CCRI (City Creek Reserve Inc) is developing it instead. He said he thinks that they are still using the same design becasue they are currently "75%" designed. I can't find anything about this online and the website with the renderings still says Hamilton at the bottom but I trust my source very much on this. It will be interesting to see when this news comes out.

[Future Mayor]

The old Wonder Bread bakery up for sale is a significant parcel of land in that neighborhood. There are so many things that could be developed there. Including dense housing, commercial and residential, and depending on the design they could put in a mid block street or walkway connecting 4th to 5th.

I potential I see is it being redeveloped into residential that targets university students, just as the former hotel across the street did when it converted to rental lofts. It's close to the U, Trax, Trolley Square, any retail a student might need and within a reasonable distance of downtown. I could picture a mix of small studios, one and a few two bedroom apartments.

I really hope they include some sort of mid-block access though, maybe along the East side of the parcel could be linear park space, providing better access to and incorporating it in with Gilgal.

[jedikermit]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I really hope they include some sort of mid-block access though, maybe along the East side of the parcel could be linear park space, providing better access to and incorporating it in with Gilgal.

I was thinking that same thing. Perfect opportunity, and a way to break up another block while increasing density.

[Plaid Shirts]

Originally Posted by DCRes

I had an interesting conversation with a good freind who works with one of the major utility companies in Salt Lake. He said that he had a meeting with the city on the 111 S Main project and they said that Hamilton Partners is no longer developing the project, CCRI (City Creek Reserve Inc) is developing it instead. He said he thinks that they are still using the same design becasue they are currently "75%" designed. I can't find anything about this online and the website with the renderings still says Hamilton at the bottom but I trust my source very much on this. It will be interesting to see when this news comes out.

As long as it gets built, I do not care who builds it.

Who is building 145?

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

As long as it gets built, I do not care who builds it.

Who is building 145?

Boyer Co. The same company that is building 101, the new parking garage and owns the former Questar Building.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by DCRes

I had an interesting conversation with a good freind who works with one of the major utility companies in Salt Lake. He said that he had a meeting with the city on the 111 S Main project and they said that Hamilton Partners is no longer developing the project, CCRI (City Creek Reserve Inc) is developing it instead. He said he thinks that they are still using the same design becasue they are currently "75%" designed. I can't find anything about this online and the website with the renderings still says Hamilton at the bottom but I trust my source very much on this. It will be interesting to see when this news comes out.

So what is Hamilton's game plan? To develop another tower somewhere else?

[delts145]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

Wow. That opens up huge possibilities for that block, which I've always kind of written off. Great news!

I've always daydreamed about the what ifs of that block on 4th and 7th. It has so much potential.

Also, it will be interesting to find out now what City Creek Reserve is planning to do as far as any design modifications however minor, maybe even a little height increase. Also, if now Hamilton will announce another tower close by as Projects suggested.

[Makid]

Is it possible that the source may have been misinformed?

I say this only hoping that HP will still do 111S. Main, Boyer for 145S. State and then CCR would develop 99S. State (Tower 7) starting later this year.

The reason that the above may make sense is that as HP is already selling space and showing floor plans, the design would be more than 90% complete. Tower 7 however had been between 25% and 50% based on previous renderings. With an estimate of 75% designed, it would allow Tower 7 to be a true mixed use Commercial/Residential/Ground Floor Retail building. If this is the case, I do hope that they put some apartments above the commercial space since apartment vacancy rate is so low.

One can always hope...

[DCRes]

Originally Posted by Makid

Is it possible that the source may have been misinformed?

I say this only hoping that HP will still do 111S. Main, Boyer for 145S. State and then CCR would develop 99S. State (Tower 7) starting later this year.

The reason that the above may make sense is that as HP is already selling space and showing floor plans, the design would be more than 90% complete. Tower 7 however had been between 25% and 50% based on previous renderings. With an estimate of 75% designed, it would allow Tower 7 to be a true mixed use Commercial/Residential/Ground Floor Retail building. If this is the case, I do hope that they put some apartments above the commercial space since apartment vacancy rate is so low.

One can always hope...

It's always possible that he was misinformed because i was not in the actual conversation, but like i said, i generally trust this person's information. It's possible that the person he was talking to was confused but what I was told that he said was "Hamilton is no longer the developer and CCRI is taking it over"

[utenation]

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

Also something interesting to note is that Denver helped Vancouver get the 2010 games. It goes back to when Denver passed the '76 games onto Vancouver, but Vancouver was not ready to host them for political reasons and was simply just not ready to host such a large event. Obviously Innsbruck would host them.

The two main things that I'm pointing out with this is that Denver knows what it takes to win the Olympic bid with helping Vancouver win them. Also with having Vancouver win the 2010 games, it shows that the IOC is willing to give the games back to a city that had passed on them. This will obviously help Denver.

With everything I have said, I believe Denver will be the US city representative that will go up against the other few cities across the world that will try to host the 2026 games.

And clearly you aren't listening to what others are saying. You seem to have an agenda against the 2002 games in SLC.. Did you miss the part where others were telling you that this was business as usual for the times? To be fair, let's go back since the Olympics started in the modern day and audit all the "bribes" and "scandals".. As someone mentioned, this just wasn't a SLC thing, it was the IOC as well with their hands dirty..

Another thing, I completely disagree with you on turning down the Olympics is less worse than a "scandal".. Telling the IOC that you are rejecting an offer they gave to you vs. a city that is trying everything possible to get and keep the games or in your words a "scandal" is far less worse.

That is water under the bridge and different times at this point and I personally think Denver would be a great site.

If you are going to paint the SLC situation as the act of the devil, let's be fair and include everyone guilty of the same thing..

[DCRes]

Here are a couple photo's of the burned apartments on 500 S from today.

[utenation]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Since Denver still looks down on us as their little bitches then no, it would not be awesome.







Denver doesn't even take us seriously and STILL treats us like their "little brother". Hosting the Winter Games was really the one thing ( besides maybe a few retails ) that we have over them.

Projects are you talking about a couple of Denver dudes on a Skyscraper forum? Grain of salt my friend. I've spent a lot of time in Denver lately and specifcally downtown and overall, I think the people are great, laid back people.. City comparisons are natural and I think SLC has some advantages that Denver doesn't and vice versa..

I love how SLC is growing and I'm biased like you but man, there are just some things about Denver that feels like a real urban city with flavor that SLC just doesn't have..I hope we get there someday. One example: They don't get inversions like here and I think their downtown is awesome from the layout, night life, city transit even down to the steam coming out of the streets... A few things I don't like: DIA is in BFE from downtown and I think their freeways are a bit rundown and small for a city that size..

I could live in either city but I live in SLC.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by utenation

Projects are you talking about a couple of Denver dudes on a Skyscraper forum? Grain of salt my friend. I've spent a lot of time in Denver lately and specifcally downtown and overall, I think the people are great, laid back people.. City comparisons are natural and I think SLC has some advantages that Denver doesn't and vice versa..

I love how SLC is growing and I'm biased like you but man, there are just some things about Denver that feels like a real urban city with flavor that SLC just doesn't have..I hope we get there someday. One example: They don't get inversions like here and I think their downtown is awesome from the layout, night life, city transit even down to the steam coming out of the streets... A few things I don't like: DIA is in BFE from downtown and I think their freeways are a bit rundown and small for a city that size..

I could live in either city but I live in SLC.

I might have spent too much time on the Mountain West Microbrew: Chit chat and irrelevancy thread, but yea, I'm sure most people are more respectful.
I've never even been to Denver, besides an layover at their airport. Been meaning to check out that city one of these days. I'm sure it's nice.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Makid

Is it possible that the source may have been misinformed?

I say this only hoping that HP will still do 111S. Main, Boyer for 145S. State and then CCR would develop 99S. State (Tower 7) starting later this year.

The reason that the above may make sense is that as HP is already selling space and showing floor plans, the design would be more than 90% complete. Tower 7 however had been between 25% and 50% based on previous renderings. With an estimate of 75% designed, it would allow Tower 7 to be a true mixed use Commercial/Residential/Ground Floor Retail building. If this is the case, I do hope that they put some apartments above the commercial space since apartment vacancy rate is so low.

One can always hope...

Did you mean Tower 8? Tower 7, I believe was the 8-story apartments on Main State.

Edit: wait, maybe not. Ok let's see....

Tower 1: 99 West
Tower 2: The Casade
Tower 3: might be the apartments on main
Tower 4: Law office building on South Temple
Tower 5: The Regent
Towers 6 and 7: Richard Court on South Temple
Tower 8: yet to be built, tower on state street and 100 S.

Ok.

[scottharding]

Originally Posted by DCRes

Here are a couple photo's of the burned apartments on 500 S from today.

Looks like there was little-to-no damage to the foundation, which is good. I'm not too informed on how construction works, but I'd imagine they could just tear out the remaining wood pieces and start re-framing.

I guess if there was a time during the construction process when it would be ideal for a disaster like this, it would be when it happened. The only primary loss is all the wood. The foundation is still good, and none of the more expensive exterior and interior materials (which I'm guessing were already purchased) were lost.

[utenation]

So does anyone know why the recent buildings like the Federal Courthouse, 111 Main and 145-State aren't in the diagram page? Who updates that? SLC's page is far behind..

[ToysNoiz]

Originally Posted by utenation

So does anyone know why the recent buildings like the Federal Courthouse, 111 Main and 145-State aren't in the diagram page? Who updates that? SLC's page is far behind..

I submitted a Rendering of 111, but it wasn't accepted.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by utenation

So does anyone know why the recent buildings like the Federal Courthouse, 111 Main and 145-State aren't in the diagram page? Who updates that? SLC's page is far behind..

Part of the reason I think could be that nobody seems to know just how high ( feet wise ) the Federal Courthouse is. I mean, does anybody know?

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by utenation

So does anyone know why the recent buildings like the Federal Courthouse, 111 Main and 145-State aren't in the diagram page? Who updates that? SLC's page is far behind..

Not just those. We have the US bank tower, the Bell Plaza (Century link), the Grand America, and even mid rise towers are missing.

[H4vok]

Originally Posted by EPdesign

Not just those. We have the US bank tower, the Bell Plaza (Century link), the Grand America, and even mid rise towers are missing.

It seems Matthew Dumont has done a lot of SLC's building diagrams. They look pretty good too. Maybe somebody should reach out to him to do some more?