Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

Which would be awesome! Denver is such an amazing city, and it definitely deserves a chance to host the 2026 games.

Here is a USA Today article from February 2013. It's on the 2026 games. It mentions SLC, Denver, and other potential US host cities. It says how much it would cost to bid against US cities and how much it would cost to bid against the cities across the world.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/oly...uture-olympic-bids-report-board/1777843/

Since Denver still looks down on us as their little bitches then no, it would not be awesome.

Originally Posted by RyanD

Poor Salt Lake City.. Shorter mountains, shorter buildings, smaller city.. You guys are good sports.

Originally Posted by seventwenty

None of this jealous little brother stuff.

Originally Posted by seventwenty

Oh, I wouldn't say we're the best state. Just better than Utah.

Denver doesn't even take us seriously and STILL treats us like their "little brother". Hosting the Winter Games was really the one thing ( besides maybe a few retails ) that we have over them.

[Plaid Shirts]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Since Denver still looks down on us as their little bitches then no, it would not be awesome.

It's okay. We (Salt Lake City) look down on Boise, they're our little bitch.

[Stenar]

I'm sure Quebec officials were bribing IOC officials, too. Everyone said that SLC was the overwhelming favorite for 2002. Quebec was never the favorite. We had built most of the facilities for the games to prove that we were serious, which made us the favorite. We were also the favorites for the 1998 games, but Japanese officials bribed IOC members 10x as much as SLC did, so they got those games instead of us. That's what caused SLC officials to bribe in the first place, because they didn't do it in 1998. Japanese officials were bribing in amounts of 100s of thousands. SLC bribed in the 10s of thousands.

Unfortunately, what most IOC and other Olympic commentators said was that SLC was such a huge favorite that they didn't even need to bribe officials.

Also, SLC didn't exactly get caught, SLC basically turned themselves in.

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

That's my point. They got caught. The 2002 Olympics will always have that scandal to their name, no matter how "successful" the 2002 games were.

Other cities like Denver and Quebec (trust me Quebec has not forgotten what Salt Lake did...they were supposed to be the favorite until the SLC committee pulled this stunt to get the 2002 games), so I wouldn't be surprised if they used it against SLC and for their own advantage.

[Stenar]

How did Denver help Vancouver win the games? Link?

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

Also something interesting to note is that Denver helped Vancouver get the 2010 games. It goes back to when Denver passed the '76 games onto Vancouver, but Vancouver was not ready to host them for political reasons and was simply just not ready to host such a large event. Obviously Innsbruck would host them.

The two main things that I'm pointing out with this is that Denver knows what it takes to win the Olympic bid with helping Vancouver win them. Also with having Vancouver win the 2010 games, it shows that the IOC is willing to give the games back to a city that had passed on them. This will obviously help Denver.

With everything I have said, I believe Denver will be the US city representative that will go up against the other few cities across the world that will try to host the 2026 games.

[ToysNoiz]

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[delts145]

Congratulations Plaid Shirts, you've done a better job of uniting everyone in this forum toward the same opinion than just about anyone.

Seriously, Denver is a PLAINS city period! Denver will never be set up as well as the Wasatch Front geographically to host the Winter Olympics. Just imagine what the infrastructure will be like in 2026, given what Salt Lake City has accomplished over the past 12 years. Whether Salt Lake City gets the games or not, it's going to be an incredible place to be in 2026.

[Plaid Shirts]

Originally Posted by delts145

Congratulations Plaid Shirts, you've done a better job of uniting everyone in this forum toward the same opinion than just about anyone.

Seriously, Denver is a PLAINS city period! Denver will never be set up as well as the Wasatch Front geographically to host the Winter Olympics. Just imagine what the infrastructure will be like in 2026, given what Salt Lake City has accomplished over the past 12 years. Whether Salt Lake City gets the games or not, it's going to be an incredible place to be in 2026.

Denver will be an incredible place in 2026 as well, especially with the Olympics going on in Denver that year.

Sochi wasn't set up for winter Olympics, but look where they're at.

#denver2026

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

Denver will be an incredible place in 2026 as well, especially with the Olympics going on in Denver that year.

Sochi wasn't set up for winter Olympics, but look where they're at.

#denver2026

Most cities will be pretty awesome in 12 years. You're in the Salt Lake City Thread, so expect there to be over whelming support for Salt Lake City. I don't know if you are merely playing devils Advocate or like to spark debate, but I think both cities Salt Lake and Denver are going to make great changes in that time. Actually, I think Boise too is coming on into it's own now. I am very excited for what I see happening in that city.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts

Sochi wasn't set up for winter Olympics, but look where they're at.

#denver2026

Yup and look at how warmly they've been treated by the press and athletes. Hotels weren't/aren't completed, the weather is to warm and the snow and ice are to soft. The half pipe was in horrible condition, the Sochi Olympic Plaza isn't even in Sochi(according to that article). Gays being beat in the streets, dogs being killed in the streets. And Bob Costas got a double eye infection. Well done Sochi, well done.

One thing we can look forward to is that the other article stated that the USOC will decide by 2015 if they are putting a city in for the 2024 Summer Bid. I have mixed feelings on whether or not I want a US city to be in the 2024 running. I think it all depends on if the USOC wants a summmer that much more than they want a winter or if they simply want an Olympics here period. I could see it going a couple of ways. If they put a city up for the 2024 games, and the IOC doesn't select the US then they might want to put in a bid for that same city in 2028 because it would have a much better shot at hosting if it came close for 2024. If the 2024 city isn't selected the IOC may be more willing to award the winter 2024 games to the US for that same reason, because the US hasn't hosted in a while.

[Plaid Shirts]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Yup and look at how warmly they've been treated by the press and athletes. Hotels weren't/aren't completed, the weather is to warm and the snow and ice are to soft. The half pipe was in horrible condition, the Sochi Olympic Plaza isn't even in Sochi(according to that article). Gays being beat in the streets, dogs being killed in the streets. And Bob Costas got a double eye infection. Well done Sochi, well done.

Touche. That was good.

[Future Mayor]

One thing I would bet money on, is that the IOC won't pick a coastal city to host the Winter games again. While overall Vancouver was a pretty good games, there were complaints about the snow quality the entire time, being a little to warm and the same thing is happening in Sochi.

[Plaid Shirts]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

One thing I would bet money on, is that the IOC won't pick a coastal city to host the Winter games again. While overall Vancouver was a pretty good games, there were complaints about the snow quality the entire time, being a little to warm and the same thing is happening in Sochi.

It's for that reason that I think if Sacramento/Squaw Valley does put a bid in, they won't win. Even though Sacramento isn't on the coast, it's just too warm in February.

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Except compared to most other Winter Olympics, ours games were very compact. From Snow Basin, (I believe that was the most northern venue) to Seven Peaks Ice center (I believe the most southern venue) is travel distance of 88 miles. From SLC the "Host City" to Snowbasin 42 miles. To Seven Peaks 46 miles, and the furthest venue away from the "Host City" was Soilder Hollow at 50 miles.

Comparatively Vancover to Whistler is 77 miles.

Denver closest resort are: Winter Park 66 miles; Vail 97 miles; Breckenridge 80 miles.

Sochi venues.
Calculated from Sochi: One venue is in Krasnodar 185 miles; Cross Country Center 50 miles;
Calculated from Adler: Krasnodar 203 miles; Cross Country Center 34 miles;
From Krasnodar to the Cross Country Center, 236 miles.

So yes Sochi is very spread out, particularly compared to the 2002 games.

What venue is in Krasnodar?

All of the competition venues for the Sochi games are in either the mountain or the coastal clusters, they're some of the most compact games in Olympic history.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by arkhitektor

What venue is in Krasnodar?

All of the competition venues for the Sochi games are in either the mountain or the coastal clusters, they're some of the most compact games in Olympic history.

I did a Sochi Venue search and it pulled up a big map. It was indicated that there was something in Krasnodar. Apparently it's just a place of interest, some square. Sorry, I didn't intend to lead people astray.

With that said, 50 miles from Sochi to the Cross Country venue, that is as compact as 2002. But since it's really the Adler games then at 34 miles that really is compact.

[Orlando]

Other potential U.S. cities for a winter Olympics are Seattle, Anchorage, Reno/Tahoe, & Portland. Though, I don't think Portland would ever for a global event like the Olympics.

[wrendog]

Originally Posted by Orlando

Other potential U.S. cities for a winter Olympics are Seattle, Anchorage, Reno/Tahoe, & Portland. Though, I don't think Portland would ever for a global event like the Olympics.

They won't go back to the PNW so soon.

[jimmycdii]

Originally Posted by Orlando

Other potential U.S. cities for a winter Olympics are Seattle, Anchorage, Reno/Tahoe, & Portland. Though, I don't think Portland would ever for a global event like the Olympics.

No Olympics in Portland!

[Hatman]

I was amazed by the cost to bid for the olympics, as quoted in the article posted by Plaid Shirts. It's in the Millions of $$$! I understand that many feasibility studies are required, but does that really cost millions?
Or does all that include the cost of the previously mentioned bribes?

[delts145]

Prime parcels of downtown Salt Lake City property for sale

Real estate » The 400 South site of former Wonder/U.S. Bakery factory draws developers’ interest.

By TONY SEMERAD | The Salt Lake Tribune

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/57536874-79/lake-salt-south-bakery.html.csp

A prime piece of land in one of downtown Salt Lake City’s main commercial centers is up for sale.

Bidding is open on a 3.18-acre cluster of parcels just east of the highly trafficked crossroads of 400 South and 700 East, site of a facility used until last fall by U.S. Bakery, better known as Franz Bakery, to produce and distribute hotdog and hamburger buns.

With the factory and loading docks idled as part of a regional consolidation, the underlying lots and two buildings were offered for sale Wednesday, with no official asking price.

"A property like this hits on so many different cylinders, we’re anticipating it will set a new record," said Michael Jeppesen, an agent with Salt Lake City-based IPG Commercial Real Estate, which is marketing the site in partnership with Cushman & Wakefield | Commerce.

The T-shaped footprint of the eight adjoining parcels offers frontage access to the busy arteries of 700 East, 500 South and 400 South, which is also a corridor for the University of Utah extension of the TRAX red line. The lots, a block northeast of Trolley Square mall, are zoned under city code for special transit-related and transitional uses, allowing both high-density multifamily residential and commercial development...

read more...http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/57536874-79/lake-salt-south-bakery.html.csp

[jedikermit]

Wow. That opens up huge possibilities for that block, which I've always kind of written off. Great news!