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[jlousa]

I think you can safely cut those numbers in half. I'd be surprised if you see a FAR above 2.5. Not to mention most of that property wouldn't be redeveloped for decades.

[SFUVancouver]

Onni paid $110 million for the property. Wow.

[spm2013]

Was that Translink owend or third party?

[logan5]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I think you can safely cut those numbers in half. I'd be surprised if you see a FAR above 2.5. Not to mention most of that property wouldn't be redeveloped for decades.

With the density bonus, the Brentwood Town Centre plan allows for up to 5 FSR, I thought. The Aviara II proposal at the corner of Halifax and Gilmore is at 5 FSR.

Canucks suck.

[red-paladin]

I can't wait to see what the plans are for the Gilmore Station project

[WarrenC12]

What are the current rules around development money that Translink gets for a TOD like this?

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I think you can safely cut those numbers in half. I'd be surprised if you see a FAR above 2.5.

Wow I hope not. That is such a paltry number given its proximity to transit, employment and one of the fastest growing nodes in the metro.

I'd hope for at least 5, maybe even up to 6 or 7.

[idunno]

Very exciting! I too can't wait to see how they integrate the station/guideway.

[VanK]

Originally Posted by spm2013

Was that Translink owend or third party?

This was 3rd party owned. Not Translink. This site will take years to develop and is currently designated as commercial so although yes Burnaby will allow high density residential, there will be a significant office/commercial component to the site.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

I will be very interested to see how the station is integrated into the project as the roof was designed to be "taken off" easily so the station could integrate better into the future TOD built on that site.

also I would hope a 2nd access point could be created on Lougheed through the mixed use project into the NE side of the station

Agreed. That site looks to be a perfect site to do station integration with a future designed project.

[jlousa]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Wow I hope not. That is such a paltry number given its proximity to transit, employment and one of the fastest growing nodes in the metro.

I'd hope for at least 5, maybe even up to 6 or 7.

I think we might see individual subparcels developed to an FSR of 5 or so but for the block as a whole I think we'll see an FAR of closer to 2.5, much like the surrounding area. This parcel doesn't fall within the town centre designation. Let's be honest an FAR of 2.5 is still plenty dense, I reckon SEFC doesn't even break that mark as a whole.

[PaperTiger]

Exactly. You aren't going to see 5.0 FSR on a site that large once you account for road dedications, SkyTrain right-of-way, open space etc.

I'm curious, why do you think it will be decades away? Onni isn't know for the long play, like say a Bosa or a Concord would be.

[jlousa]

I can't imagine they will knock down the office buildings anytime soon as they are still quite viable. I believe they'll develop the vacant parcels and some of the less viable parcels in the midterm. I could be wrong but don't think we'll see the whole thing redeveloped anytime soon.

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by spm2013

Was that Translink owend or third party?

It was owned by Standard Life.

Vancouvermarket.ca is a good source of info on the sale: http://www.vancouvermarket.ca

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I think we might see individual subparcels developed to an FSR of 5 or so but for the block as a whole I think we'll see an FAR of closer to 2.5, much like the surrounding area. This parcel doesn't fall within the town centre designation. Let's be honest an FAR of 2.5 is still plenty dense, I reckon SEFC doesn't even break that mark as a whole.

Ya no I was hoping for a mixed use entire parcel FAR of 5+. It really frustrates me how low the density around some of our transit stations is, especially in a case like this where it is virtually on top of the station. I know there are arguments both ways but I really believe the city and region as a whole would be better off really amping up the density immediately adjacent to transit stations. The life around the MRT stations in Singapore was just great, and every station functioned like a little town centre, and I think one of the prime causes was a concentration of density in the form of residential and services.

That said I bring this up every time and it's not likely to change so I'll stop harping on it.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by PaperTiger

Exactly. You aren't going to see 5.0 FSR on a site that large once you account for road dedications, SkyTrain right-of-way, open space etc.

I'm curious, why do you think it will be decades away? Onni isn't know for the long play, like say a Bosa or a Concord would be.

The solo site is quite large. About half the size as the gilmore station site with 1300 hundred units, which would give it a density of around 5. Same with station square and the sears redevelopment. We'll see.

[PaperTiger]

Originally Posted by logan5

The solo site is quite large. About half the size as the gilmore station site with 1300 hundred units, which would give it a density of around 5. Same with station square and the sears redevelopment. We'll see.

That's true... I wonder what the density is at the OMA/Tandem developments across the street.

[officedweller]

I'd like to see at least one office tower - like Gateway Station Tower - attached to Gilmore Station. There's an office park across Gilmore - so there's a bit more precedent for office space here than there is at some other sites in Brentwood or at Holdom.

[Klazu]

Another 300 Units Coming to Metrotown

A few older apartment buildings from the 1950s and 1960s could be replaced with a shiny new redevelopment in the Metrotown area.

The proposed 38-storey apartment tower with street fronting townhouses on Nelson Avenue and Dunblane Avenue and underground parking will go to a public hearing on Jan. 28, 2014.

The site includes 6616, 6642 and 6668 Nelson Ave. and 6635 Dunblane Ave., which currently have a single-family dwelling and older apartment buildings ranging from two to three storeys. The site is also in the heart of other new developments, including the 35-storey apartment building being constructed north of the proposed project.

“The development form has a strong street orientation on the site’s public frontages as well as a strong contextual relationship to the surrounding existing high and lowrise apartment developments,” states Lou Pelletier, director of planning and building, in his report.

A total of 304 units are proposed, ranging from 470 square feet to 1,686 sq. ft.

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2013/12/17/another-300-units-coming-to-metrotown/

[logan5]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I can't imagine they will knock down the office buildings anytime soon as they are still quite viable. I believe they'll develop the vacant parcels and some of the less viable parcels in the midterm. I could be wrong but don't think we'll see the whole thing redeveloped anytime soon.

You're wrong. They're going to develop this property just like any other transit oriented development. I gave you an example of the density that is going on in Burnaby. You choose to ignore it. I can almost guarantee you the density for that property will be 5 x.