Future Canadian Skylines

[Deepstar]

Toronto 180
New York City 94
Vancouver 76
Montreal 47
Miami 38
Calgary 25
Houston 24
San Francisco 20
Chicago 15
Dallas 15
Ottawa 14
Seattle 14
Halifax 12
Boston 12
Edmonton 11
Kitchener Waterloo 11
Los Angeles 11
Philadelphia 10

Other Canadian cities
Victoria 7
London 4
Quebec 3
Winnipeg 3
Regina 2
St John's 2

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by Deepstar

I tend not to use that one, as some of the buildings don't always meet the highrise requirement of 12 floors or 34M

Alright.

[Beedok]

Isn't Hamilton at about 7 or 8?

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Good list.

Although at this rate no one's gonna consider Los Angeles and Chicago as "big cities" anymore!

Or maybe not. Supertalls under construction,

Los Angeles 1
Canada 0

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Deepstar

I tend not to use that one, as some of the buildings don't always meet the highrise requirement of 12 floors or 34M

Is this Wikipedia article incorrect then? Oh just reread the post... hi rises on the go. Forget it.

There are roughly 650 high-rise buildings that equal or exceed 35 m (115 ft).,[2] and roughly 50 buildings that equal or exceed 100 metres (328 ft)in Vancouver. Vancouver has 27 protected view corridors which limit the construction of tall buildings which interfere with the line of sight to the North Shore Mountains, the downtown skyline, and the waters of English Bay and the Strait of Georgia.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Or maybe not. Supertalls under construction,

Los Angeles 1
Canada 0

Assuming (once again) that supertalls make a city a great metropolis of global significance.

I mean, Dubai has one, and it's smaller than Vancouver.

[Chadillaccc]

Uhhmmm, Dubai has 18 supertalls, not 1. With 5 under construction. With a population of over 2.1 million, its population is directly comparable to Vancouver's, and is growing extremely quickly. (though a lot of those people are basically indentured slaves)


Also, Los Angeles is a great city, with more global influence than any city in this country, possibly more than all 6 of our largest cities combined.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Uhhmmm, Dubai has 18 supertalls, not 1. With 5 under construction. With a population of over 2.1 million, its population is directly comparable to Vancouver's, and is growing extremely quickly. (though a lot of those people are basically indentured slaves)


Also, Los Angeles is a great city, with more global influence than any city in this country, possibly more than all 6 of our largest cities combined.

Yes, yes, yes. And yes.

[softee]

That LA building U/C is only a supertall because it has a skinny little stick-like spire on top.

[Chadillaccc]

Actually, the primary roof is 285 meters, but the decorative/mechanical secondary roof (similar to the Onion Dome of Trump Toronto, but far more substantial) is about 302 meters, with the spire being 335 meters.

[flipv]

Long time lurker - first time poster. This chain of comments had me create an account so I can chime in:

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by flipv

Given the absolute disdain for Toronto on this forum, and the passive-aggressive jabs from Acajack, sorry but I think my tone is spot on.

I think your rant made some good points.

From what I can gather, however, the level of criticism Toronto receives is proportionate to what the other larger cities in Canada get. I don't have disdain for Toronto; I acknowledge it as Canada's Metropolis.
You certainly don't have to live there to be proud of it (or, at times, embarrassed).

Parts of your post, though, did seem rude to me -- for example, your judgement that the French in Montréal is not actually French.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I suppose...but the opinions I've encountered from a number of Europeans in the francophonie sphere are that the dialects of French in Montréal, and by greater extent the Province of Québec, are old.

Apparently many of the French dialects in Europe have accepted words from other languages more liberally than what you'll hear being spoken amongst les Québécois.

[flipv]

Originally Posted by RyeJay

I think your rant made some good points.

From what I can gather, however, the level of criticism Toronto receives is proportionate to what the other larger cities in Canada get. I don't have disdain for Toronto; I acknowledge it as Canada's Metropolis.
You certainly don't have to live there to be proud of it (or, at times, embarrassed).

Parts of your post, though, did seem rude to me -- for example, your judgement that the French in Montréal is not actually French.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I suppose...but the opinions I've encountered from a number of Europeans in the francophonie sphere are that the dialects of French in Montréal, and by greater extent the Province of Québec, are old.

Apparently many of the French dialects in Europe have accepted words from other languages more liberally than what you'll hear being spoken amongst les Québécois.

Quebec sitcoms and dramas are very popular on French (France) TV. However, they have subtitles. That leads me to believe it's not quite French

Thanks, Chad. Some brutal honesty is needed. If you can be rude and condescending to Toronto and those living here I can offer the same back.

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by flipv

Quebec sitcoms and dramas are very popular on French (France) TV. However, they have subtitles. That leads me to believe it's not quite French

Why are the subtitles used?... because the Québec sitcoms are using older French, Québec English, or because of their "accents"?

I've watched English programs from other regions of the globe and they required subtitles because of the speakers' heavy dialects, being too far from a neutral sound to be understood by a comfortable majority of international English speakers.

But I would never say those heavily accented English speakers aren't speaking English.

Just like English, French has many varieties.

Originally Posted by flipv

Thanks, Chad. Some brutal honesty is needed. If you can be rude and condescending to Toronto and those living here I can offer the same back.

An eye for an eye approach is immature, in my opinion, especially due to the higher chance of misinterpreting our posts due to the absence of vocal tone and facial expression to garnish a more accurate context of intention.

[vanatox]

Originally Posted by RyeJay

Why are the subtitles used?...

It's mostly because there are different expressions and words used. It's the same when I watch movies or TV shows from France or translated stuff in France French, there are some expressions, slang that I don't understand or find weird because it is used locally and is not international French. I have lived with many students from France while I was at university, I have French coworkers, and I have travelled in France and I have never had any problem communicating. We speak the same language after all.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by flipv

Quebec sitcoms and dramas are very popular on French (France) TV. However, they have subtitles. That leads me to believe it's not quite French

This shows how little you know. Quebec sitcoms and dramas are NOT popular in France. They take the concepts and remake them, and we take their concepts and remake them for our market.

If you think that you turn on the TV in France and see Quebec TV shows in prime time, you haven't watched TV in France in a long time.

A lot of Quebec music is popular in France. Some Quebec comedians, actors and celebrities are popular in France. Some Quebec movies have been popular in France - and many of them aren't even subtitled imagine that!

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Acajack

This shows how little you know. Quebec sitcoms and dramas are NOT popular in France. They take the concepts and remake them, and we take their concepts and remake them for our market.

If you think that you turn on the TV in France and see Quebec TV shows in prime time, you haven't watched TV in France in a long time.

A lot of Quebec music is popular in France. Some Quebec comedians, actors and celebrities are popular in France. Some Quebec movies have been popular in France - and many of them aren't even subtitled imagine that!

Quebec French is the equivilant to Elizabethan English to someone in France. They may understand it but, they also laugh at it.

In my experience, North Americans love Montreal for the reason they think it to be the most European with the language and all. Most Europeans rather have the vibrancy and modernism of Toronto. Montreal, to them, is an inferior North American product of what they have at home.

[Xelebes]

Originally Posted by flipv

Long time lurker - first time poster. This chain of comments had me create an account so I can chime in:

flipv, I understand that you have delurked, joined and posted, but I have to ask you to refrain from some indulges as this post was. City vs. City bashing is not cool on this forum and hoping to score some cheap points with insults and taunts is not a long-term behaviour that we condone. So please, take it easy, join in and understand the flow of this forum.

[Martin Mtl]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Quebec French is the equivilant to Elizabethan English to someone in France. They may understand it but, they also laugh at it.

In my experience, North Americans love Montreal for the reason they think it to be the most European with the language and all. Most Europeans rather have the vibrancy and modernism of Toronto. Montreal, to them, is an inferior North American product of what they have at home.

Oh boy. In your experience you say ? Do you speak french ?

I do. I make a living writing. I very often collaborate on projects with persons from France. I go to Paris almost every year, where I have many friends. They often come to Montreal. We never have any problem communicating with each other. The french spoken in Montreal is spoken with an accent, but the words are the same, except for the local expressions. Then again, there is that difference also between the english spoken in London and the one spoken in Canada.

My friends from Paris who visited Toronto thought it was a rather cold and ugly city without the vibes that they love in Montreal. They don't want to visit again. True fact, sorry if it´s too honnest. I don't share their view; I love Toronto and I think it has a wonderful, funky vibes, but they didn't and since you used personnel exemple, so do I.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Quebec French is the equivilant to Elizabethan English to someone in France. They may understand it but, they also laugh at it.

Care to scan your diploma of French linguistics so we can all see your credentials for this statement, Snapper?

Do you even speak any French at all?

The truth is that Quebec French would be the equivalent to Southern US English in the anglosphere.

As for us being laughed at in France, we'll since we are playing that game I'll let you in on a little secret too: behind your backs, people tell us that you're Frozen Yanks all the time, indistinguishable and identical from your neighbours to the south. They know it pisses you off and that the Americans don't care, so when they're unsure if a person is a Canuck or a Yank, they ask if they're from Canada just to be on the safe side and avoid an incident.

Shhh- don't tell them I told you.