Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals - Page 471

LeftCoaster · #**9401** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 4:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

I think for the time being, this one has as much chance as Oxford Place (Oxford Properties), at least in it's current configuration.

Thankfully for the Edmonton Forumers, I don't make the decision on that.

Oxford place is for lack of a better term on long term hold. Don't expect to see it within a decade and likely looking nothing like what it was proposed as. Its current iteration is more or less dead.

DrNest · #**9402** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 7:32 PM**

That's too bad. But not surprising for a project of this scale. One can but hope that eventually there will some amazing skyscrapers built here.

tomthumb2 · #**9403** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

One of Calgary's big rumours about another new tallest was just squashed. Husky just re-signed their lease to continue as anchor tenant of the Husky Towers for another 25 years. We still have two rumours for a new tallest left though! Fingers crossed

What two rumors are left?

Chadillaccc · #**9404** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 7:54 PM**

The Gateway proposal which hasn't been made public, and the Imperial Oil Site directly adjacent to Courthouse Park. There may be another one too, that I think Bokimon has alluded to in the past, but I can't exactly remember what he hinted at.

tomthumb2 · #**9405** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:29 PM**

Well Imperial Oil is moving to Quarry Park campus so I guess we can take them off the list. Down to one? Go Gateway!

WhipperSnapper · #**9406** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:35 PM**

The Imperial Oil site was just sold. There's been a lot of hopes and dreams attached to this site in the decade I've been on the forum but, nothing to be even considered a rumour has emerged. It is one of the few sities large enough to support a new tallest within the shadowing bylaw and the maximum allowable densities in the core.

I remember Gateway being three massive eliptical towers on the west end of the downtown area from five years go. Everything about it suggested it would never amount to more than the renderings.

Chadillaccc · #**9407** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by tomthumb2

Well Imperial Oil is moving to Quarry Park campus so I guess we can take them off the list. Down to one? Go Gateway!

It's a site formerly owned by Imperial Oil. We just call it the Imperial Oil Site in the Calgary section. It's owned by Oxford now. They bought it for an exorbitant price, around $70 million I think. That, along with the site being in the maximum allowable height and density zone, is why there is speculation about a major tower being built there, in the not-so-distant future.

Ramako · #**9408** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:44 PM**

So the Imperial Oil site is more or less in the same rumour/speculation realm as 45 Bay?

tomthumb2 · #**9409** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:45 PM**

Hey Chadillaccc - you're well informed man - thats why I like your posts! Thanks for the info - hopefully we see something truly exciting in the not too distant future.

Chadillaccc · #**9410** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

So the Imperial Oil site is more or less in the same rumour/speculation realm as 45 Bay?

Yeah basically, except that 45 Bay has actually had a proposal and is also the site of a future major transit hub, so it has quite a leg up on the IOL site. None of us are expecting it to be built this cycle, except for maybe TallBob!

but we are expecting something to be proposed this cycle, I believe. The rumour was significantly strengthened by the insane price that Oxford paid for the site last year. Also, the fact that it wouldn't even require any major demolition, being a surface parking lot, makes it one of the best locations in the city for something amazing... and its visibility, fronting onto a park, could help make it an architectural icon.

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Originally Posted by tomthumb2

Hey Chadillaccc - you're well informed man - thats why I like your posts! Thanks for the info - hopefully we see something truly exciting in the not too distant future.

Thanks man

Ramako · #**9411** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah basically, except that 45 Bay has actually had a proposal and is also the site of a future major transit hub, so it has quite a leg up on the IOL site.

45 Bay only ever had some renderings released. No application was ever filed.

It's the kind of site where everyone knows that something huge will eventually get built, but nobody knows when.

DrNest · #**9412** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:49 PM**

So what is happening with 45 Bay? Is anything solid likely to emerge soon?

isaidso · #**9413** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 8:52 PM**

He just finished saying that nobody knows when.

DrNest · #**9414** Posted **Jan 9, 2014, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

He just finished saying that nobody knows when.

Maybe, but unfortunately I'm not telepathic and can't tell what someone is writing and will post at the same time as I'm typing.

Take away Ramako's post and mine follows on the conversation from Chad's.

TallBob · #**9415** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 7:18 AM**

WhipperSnapper: Get rid of the Shadow by-law..... Problem solved.

Ramako · #**9416** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 12:15 PM**

There's a bunch of talk on UT about YC Condos (460 Yonge) being 66 storeys rather than the 57 storeys that was approved by planning staff. I wonder if they're squeezing more floors into the approved height.

Southcore · #**9417** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 12:28 PM**

Many agents saying it's 66 storeys (599 units). Anyone hear anything about this?

Edit - I saw your reply on UT Ramako re: floor heights. You might be on to something

isaidso · #**9418** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 2:11 PM**

Not sure how this could be considered too tall at this location. It's at College subway station and AURA is the next block down. Even at 66 floors it would only be around 230m tops. Hardly a giant.

230m would better compliment AURA than 198m anyway.

Ramako · #**9419** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Not sure how this could be considered too tall at this location. It's at College subway station and AURA is the next block down. Even at 66 floors it would only be around 230m tops. Hardly a giant.

From what I recall, it was shortened to prevent shadowing on Alexander Street Parkette, a postage stamp of a park.

caltrane74 · #**9420** Posted **Jan 10, 2014, 2:29 PM**

230 meters for 460 Yonge / YC Condos.. That would be crazy!!

I don't think it would be feasible to shove 66 floors into 198 meters, but I don't think it will get much over 200 meters even if it is true they are squeezing in more floors. A slight variance for 2 or 3 meters would be enough to fit the additional floors. So maybe it tops out at 201 or 202 meters.