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Old Posted Dec 31, 2013, 2:55 PM
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Overhead wires are ugly and frontiers-y but they are easier to repair and not susceptible to flooding damage which buried wires are; and would actually be a more likely scenario for power outages than ice storms typically are in Toronto.
     
     
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That's rather over blown, imo. We've had 2 major ice storms in the past 20 years. I do agree that power lines need to be buried.
It's not unreasonable to recommend openmindedness to conifers in urban centres, especially when there is no suggestion to exclude broadleafed trees. It is something to consider when faced with an increasing frequency and severity of storms -- the negative affects of which are not limited to power outages.

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It's technology cities in wealthy countries started implementing 100 years ago. It's shocking that we still have overhead lines in our cities. The only reason people don't complain is that they're so used to them being there they don't think it's bizarre.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2014, 9:30 AM
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It's not unreasonable to recommend openmindedness to conifers in urban centres, especially when there is no suggestion to exclude broadleafed trees. It is something to consider when faced with an increasing frequency and severity of storms -- the negative affects of which are not limited to power outages.
I'm all for airing new ideas. I just don't see this as a realistic path for us. These trees are not only indigenous, but part of the Canadian landscape both physically and psychologically. People won't want to part with them.
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haha! Is that really where those two things come from? Cool!

I guess Calgary is the Caesar City?
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haha! Is that really where those two things come from? Cool!

I guess Calgary is the Caesar City?
And Ginger Beef!

One thing people forget about the whole coniferous tree thing, is that large stretches of North America were under a massive ice sheet as recently as 20 000 years ago, and the areas that weren't would have had a climate similar to that of Canada and the Northern US, so coniferous trees were much more prevalent at southern latitudes than they are today. The trees that are left is what evolved out of these pine forests (Ponderosa Pines would be a good example).
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Ginger Beef was invented here? Cool! and yummmmmm!

Also, I think that number of 20 000 years ago should be revised down to 13 000, as that is when the Wisconsin Ice Sheet was in a period known as the "Last Glacial Maximum" with the continental ice sheet stretching as far south as the Ohio and Northern Mississippi Valleys and the coast of New Jersey in the East, and the Columbia Basin of Washington in the West. Interestimgly, the Southern Foothills of Alberta (just west of Calgary and Lethbridge) weren't glaciated, same with Quebec's Anticosti Island, BC's Haida Gwaii, and NL's Avalon and Burin Penisula's.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2014, 6:46 PM
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And Ginger Beef!

One thing people forget about the whole coniferous tree thing, is that large stretches of North America were under a massive ice sheet as recently as 20 000 years ago, and the areas that weren't would have had a climate similar to that of Canada and the Northern US, so coniferous trees were much more prevalent at southern latitudes than they are today. The trees that are left is what evolved out of these pine forests (Ponderosa Pines would be a good example).
The pine forests were pushed a lot further down and where there is a lot of forest in the Yukon, British Columbia and Alberta, there was steppe. This is the biome of the American Horse, American Camel and the Woolly Mammoth. There are only token relics left of that old steppe biome left, and it is that disappearance that led to the extinction of the Woolly Mammoth and the sort.
     
     
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Yayyyy I love topics like this! We should make a Great Canadian Geography/Paleogeography Thread!
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It's not unreasonable to recommend openmindedness to conifers in urban centres, especially when there is no suggestion to exclude broadleafed trees. It is something to consider when faced with an increasing frequency and severity of storms -- the negative affects of which are not limited to power outages.



I agree.
Personally, I find conifers ugly. They held up poorly compared to the Oaks trees in my neighbourd too. Actually, walking around the neighbourhood, it clearly evident that the amount of damage is directly related to the hardness of the wood/species. The storm brought to light that Toronto really needs to address their current policy of planting fast growing softwood trees as to maintain the canopy .
     
     
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Toronto Density, call it New York lite;

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The Aga Khan Museum, with the least impressive part of the skyline in the background, Yonge st. from north of Bloor to south of Eglinton.

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Old Posted Jan 3, 2014, 12:59 AM
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I think it depends where conifers grow. In some soils they flourish. In other soils they look leggy, thin and sporadic.



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Personally, I find conifers ugly. They held up poorly compared to the Oaks trees in my neighbourd too. Actually, walking around the neighbourhood, it clearly evident that the amount of damage is directly related to the hardness of the wood/species. The storm brought to light that Toronto really needs to address their current policy of planting fast growing softwood trees as to maintain the canopy .
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Nice conifers!

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