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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 4:47 PM
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PhillyMag and Allan Domb speculate that we might be slightly over-building:

http://www.phillymag.com/property/2013/12/26/high-rent-district/
Domb is an idiot.
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Domb is an idiot.
Ha. That's the exact proviso I used when I sent this to a friend.
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Dombass seems more obvious.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 7:20 PM
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Domb is an idiot.
Smh you wouldn't say that to his face

show some respect he's done a lot for this town
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 7:31 PM
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I don't mind over-building. It will make the rents cheaper.

DC is worried about the same thing.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 7:40 PM
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show some respect he's done a lot for this town
Yeah, but with absolute garbage like the "march to 1%" he's trying to do a lot of harm:

http://www.allandomb.com/article?id=90
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Yeah, but with absolute garbage rese the "march to 1%" he's trying to do a lot of harm:

http://www.allandomb.com/article?id=90
He's the head lobbyist for the realtors.. it's his job to publicly negotiate these things

he also pioneered the center city condo culture, brought life back to rittenhouse square and backs stephen starr and others

He's done a hell of alot of good for center city and deserves respect whether you disagree wwith him or not
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You and I disagree about the amount of respect lobbyists deserve. Not saying he hasn't done good in the past.
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You and I disagree about the amount of respect lobbyists deserve. Not saying he hasn't done good in the past.
Haha fair enough
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He's the head lobbyist for the realtors.. it's his job to publicly negotiate these things

he also pioneered the center city condo culture, brought life back to rittenhouse square and backs stephen starr and others

He's done a hell of alot of good for center city and deserves respect whether you disagree with him or not
This is also a reason to be skeptical why he would say we are overbuilding rentals yet in the same breath comment about the lack of supply in the condo market.
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You and I disagree about the amount of respect lobbyists deserve. Not saying he hasn't done good in the past.
You're using a loaded term my friend. Define "lobbyist." Are Correal and Johhny Doc not included within that definition? That being said, a "person representing the interests of a group of people with similar interests" talking about too much supply is very scaring. Oversupply, even if it exists in Philly, is actually good in moderation. It tends to purge the weakest links and creates a new status quo.
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Smh you wouldn't say that to his face

show some respect he's done a lot for this town
I meant that remark was idiotic... not all of his past actions
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This is also a reason to be skeptical why he would say we are overbuilding rentals yet in the same breath comment about the lack of supply in the condo market.
This is a legitimate point.

Rentals are purely a spec market. It's common to overbuild. That's often defined as going a point or two over the 5% equilibrium, which would also cause rents to stagnate. It's also common for some analysts and developers to predict overbuilding while others say the market is gangbusters, and keep proposing new projects and breaking ground on others.

Condos lack supply in a lot of markets. The reason few are getting built isn't that there's oversupply...it's that most condos need presales to get financing, and neither buyers nor lenders trust the presale model. Further, the last round of condos filled up in part because a lot of buildings lowered prices and others converted to rentals, not because the market's fundamentals are strong. Groundbreakings will only happen (in any given city) when prices have risen enough to give buyers a sense that pre-buying is a good bet and might save them money, which they'll do only after prices have already risen substantially (generally not being smart about market timing). The exception is developers with better financial depth who can build without presales of course, building at today's prices while selling in a year or two after prices are much higher.
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Blatstein planning retail hub for Broad and Washington

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Pearl Properties developing 20-25 story building at 19th and Chestnut

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I'll put it on the record that I'm concerned with the quality of a "retail hub". Is it a dense shopping plaza like the fresh grocer up next to Temple on broad street? Does it look like The Grove in Los Angeles? Will the site plan provide for project phases so that residential or commercial can be incorporate d at some point to work toward mixed use?

The piazza is pretty awesome, but I am contemplative as to what this could manifest as?
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I'll put it on the record that I'm concerned with the quality of a "retail hub". Is it a dense shopping plaza like the fresh grocer up next to Temple on broad street? Does it look like The Grove in Los Angeles? Will the site plan provide for project phases so that residential or commercial can be incorporate d at some point to work toward mixed use?

The piazza is pretty awesome, but I am contemplative as to what this could manifest as?
I agree. I just hope this project comports with the city's grid. Diagonally-orientated buildings and suburban-style parking lots should be off the table 10 blocks south of city hall.

Also, a retail hub with no residential on top? I'm not sure this area can ipso facto support a behemoth retail hub without residential. I think the live-work scheme will be great here.
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I agree. I just hope this project comports with the city's grid. Diagonally-orientated buildings and suburban-style parking lots should be off the table 10 blocks south of city hall.

Also, a retail hub with no residential on top? I'm not sure this area can ipso facto support a behemoth retail hub without residential. I think the live-work scheme will be great here.
Given the current multifamily market.. I'd be very surprised if there was no apartments in the works

my hope is he has a large retailer lined up (wal mart)

It's not going to be super high end retail... that's for sure

a wal mart, movie theater and some smaller spaces for local retailers/restaurants with some multifamily would be a home run imo
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Given the current multifamily market.. I'd be very surprised if there was no apartments in the works

my hope is he has a large retailer lined up (wal mart)

It's not going to be super high end retail... that's for sure

a wal mart, movie theater and some smaller spaces for local retailers/restaurants with some multifamily would be a home run imo
Walmart and a movie theater would be dead last on my wish list for Broad + Washington.
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