To be fair, the extra slots they found are for a late evening departure from YVR. I'm guessing AC wants daytime departure slots from YYC if they were to launch PEK. AC must view the daytime departure time more viable for YYC-PEK than a night time departure. but who know whats going on behind the scenes…
To be fair, the additional frequencies are in fact for the daytime flight. The 2200 departure was always daily. The 1150am flight was the 4 x week flight.
I have a feeling there will be a few announcements on the horizon... Not too far away.
Well I like to be unbiased so if there is any news that is about a reduction in service I will post that as well. But lately its been pretty much good news I suppose as Asia (mainly China) continues to beef up.
Will see what happens in the next few months with all the rumours flying around... ANA, Asiana, EVA Air, Air Canada 787s.
At least its nice to see this thread has woken up!
Westjet Encore launched Terrace and Kamloops this week.
... about Asiana Airlines, being Korean, would they not add to the Vancouver Seoul route already flown by AC and KAL? If so, would they fly elsewhere, giving access to other connection points? If not, just where would they fly? I'd be interested to see how they'd contribute to the destination network of YVR. Thank you.
To be fair, the additional frequencies are in fact for the daytime flight. The 2200 departure was always daily. The 1150am flight was the 4 x week flight.
I have a feeling there will be a few announcements on the horizon... Not too far away.
I stand corrected. For some reason I always thought the daytime departure was the daily flight. I better be a little more careful before posting next time.
I stand corrected. For some reason I always thought the daytime departure was the daily flight. I better be a little more careful before posting next time.
No problem. I would have assumed that too. The day flight was always daily until they introduced the nighttime departure. AC made that one daily. For some reason though last summer the YVR-PEK day flight was dropped to 4 days per week and Seoul was dropped to 4 days per week while AC had another crack at YYZ-ICN nonstop. YVR-ICN appears to be back to daily next summer (as it is now for the winter anyway) while YYZ-ICN appears to be dropped. But as we all know a lot is going on at AC so nothing is finalised yet anyway.
... about Asiana Airlines, being Korean, would they not add to the Vancouver Seoul route already flown by AC and KAL? If so, would they fly elsewhere, giving access to other connection points? If not, just where would they fly? I'd be interested to see how they'd contribute to the destination network of YVR. Thank you.
Yes it would be YVR-ICN. So in addition to AC and KE. So the questions remain.... Will they start flying to YVR? Will this be in addition to AC or will they replace AC?
What Asiana would be after is part of the burgeoning China market (over 20 Chinese destinations and growing). Asiana has an extensive network into China and Incheon Airport is ideally located as a transfer point from North America.
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On completely other topic, what is the reason for all major Canadian airports having their IATA code beginning with Y? I can't think of any other country having a similar system, so why Canada?
Hmh, didn't even know that IATA is headquartered in Montreal.
The IATA codes in US and Canada are based on the 4-letter ICAO codes with the first letter removed (unless they already being used). Four ICAO prefixes are assigned to Canada: CU-, CW-, CY-, and CZ-. CU- and CW- are reserved for special purpose, so they start to assign the airport from CY-. That's why most airport in Canada have code starts from Y-, although some airports with CZ- prefix have their code begin with Z-. A close example here is Masset, YZMT becomes ZMT.
For US, on the other hand, 26 prefixes KA- to KZ- are reserved. So all it needed is to remove the 'K' to convert between ICAO and IATA code. For example KLAX => LAX
Thank you for the explanation, but I still don't understand why Canada is such a special case? In every other country you can pretty much guess which major airport each IATA code is, but in case of Canada there is absolutely no logic behind YVR, YYZ, YYC, YEG, ...
YVR = V for Vancouver
YEG = E for Edmonton
YYC = C for Calgary
YYZ = no logic
Why not have VAN, CAL, EDM, TOR, MTL, etc. I am sure not all those can be reserved...
In every other country you can pretty much guess which major airport each IATA code is, but in case of Canada there is absolutely no logic behind YVR, YYZ, YYC, YEG
You are right... There is no logic. But that's the way it is. I am so lucky I live in a country where Melbourne is MEL. Gives me the warm fuzzies seeing MEL on my bag tags. I am rest assured my bags are (HOPEFULLY) heading to Melbourne.
Very nice. I love nighttime landings... (Unsure why) There's just something about them. Landing in YYZ, YUL, YVR, PHX, SFO, LAX, DEN, IAH, etc, near large conurbations, something about the city all lit up. And no, I haven't had the pleasure of landing in Tokyo, São Paulo, Beijing, or Mexico City to truly get the "large conurbation" experience.
Very nice. I love nighttime landings... (Unsure why) There's just something about them. Landing in YYZ, YUL, YVR, PHX, SFO, LAX, DEN, IAH, etc, near large conurbations, something about the city all lit up. And no, I haven't had the pleasure of landing in Tokyo, São Paulo, Beijing, or Mexico City to truly get the "large conurbation" experience.
If its NRT, you're not missing anything. Daytime is better for that.
I personally love landing into LAS at night. Airport being right next to the strip only makes it that much more awesome
Yes it would be YVR-ICN. So in addition to AC and KE. So the questions remain.... Will they start flying to YVR? Will this be in addition to AC or will they replace AC?
What Asiana would be after is part of the burgeoning China market (over 20 Chinese destinations and growing). Asiana has an extensive network into China and Incheon Airport is ideally located as a transfer point from North America.
I hope this won't affect KE's presence at YVR, as they are one of the better options to many destinations in South & Southeast Asia. It would be unfortunate if KE was forced to pull back with the expected entry of OZ (even now, they only fly to YVR 5x per week).
I hope this won't affect KE's presence at YVR, as they are one of the better options to many destinations in South & Southeast Asia. It would be unfortunate if KE was forced to pull back with the expected entry of OZ (even now, they only fly to YVR 5x per week).
I honestly think KE is in it for the long haul. As China continues to develop and international travel from the Mainland Chinese continues to grow, airports like Incheon are ideally placed to garner a lot of this growth (between China and North America). Don't forget KE's reduction to 5 weekly is just its normal seasonal reduction over the winter months so this is nothing new. Obviously there won't be an infinite amount of travel. However, if airlines, like Korean Air play their cards right, they can do quite well with the burgeoning China market.
As for Asiana, it is still in the rumour box. So who knows. There are a lot of things churning in the rumour box right now. If any of this comes to fruition over the next few months.... we will just have to be patient.
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I think the only logical reason is that Canada is special and thus gets some special love from IATA.
I love nighttime landings... (Unsure why) 
. Daytime is better for that.
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