Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

A new apartment building project west of the Gateway by Wood Partners.
The request below was submitted to Salt Lake City:

Record PLNSUB2013-00824 :
Subdivision and Condominium - Planned Dev - Conditional Use

108 S 500 W
Salt Lake City UT 84101-1128

Project Description:
108 S 500 W, Alta Gateway Planned Development
264 Apartment Building. 4-Story building. Will require lot consolidation and demolition of existing structures.

Applicant:
Gerard Tully
WP West Acquisitions, LLC
5299 DTC Blvd Suite 700
Greenwood Village, CO, 80111
Phone 1: (Work) 3034687450
Phone 2: (Mobile) 3034687450
[email protected]

https://aca.slcgov.com/Citizen/Cap/CapDe...15&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

while everyone else discusses other issues .I would like to say that this new residential project is great news. It is great to see the increase in density that is taking place in the Gateway District parallel to the plans envisioned for that area. Hopefully this will create a snowball effect causing further development.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by EPdesign

while everyone else discusses other issues .I would like to say that this new residential project is great news. It is great to see the increase in density that is taking place in the Gateway District parallel to the plans envisioned for that area. Hopefully this will create a snowball effect causing further development.

increase in density is great, but I just wish developers can increase the height a bit more. Anything shorter then five stories just seems like a waste of space so close to downtown. IMHO

[Future Mayor]

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[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

increase in density is great, but I just wish developers can increase the height a bit more. Anything shorter then five stories just seems like a waste of space so close to downtown. IMHO

I agree, I'd love to see the "Gateway District" average between 5-8 stories. Good density, but not trying to compete with downtown. Hopefully this one 4 story building will be the exception rather than the rule.

[EPdesign]

Hopefully, once developers start seeing the potential in that area, and the limited land available, the height starts to increase. I agree. Four stories is not very tall at all, especially with the Gateway apartments right across the street at 7 stories. I would also like some Office and Commercial store fronts start going up. I would like to see at least two decent height residential towers.

[jedikermit]

I'd like some surface parking lots. And maybe some weeds. I hope we get more of that.

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

I'd like some surface parking lots. And maybe some weeds. I hope we get more of that.

I know the perfect place(s).....oh but to say it would be so controversial. Buahahahaha trying to avoid a >>>

[Scraperdude801]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

I'd like some surface parking lots. And maybe some weeds. I hope we get more of that.

Could we also get some more gas stations next to those ugly victorian mansions? I really wish State Street had some more pawn shops and car dealerships, especially towards downtown. Oh yeah, please put some more vacant plazas in front of government buildings downtown--that will really enliven the urban fabric.

[UTAZLoVer]

SLC looks pretty good in this bit from Ellen with the American Idol auditions in town:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izA8wieAYVY

[Orlando]

Wow! That's 4 minutes of a big picture of downtown SLC and the mountains right directly behind Harry Connick Junior, Keith Urban, Jennifer Lopez, and Ryan Seacrest.

[UTAZLoVer]

Originally Posted by Orlando

Wow! That's 4 minutes of a big picture of downtown SLC and the mountains right directly behind Harry Connick Junior, Keith Urban, Jennifer Lopez, and Ryan Seacrest.

Its pretty great PR, I'm not gonna lie.

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I in no way support the use of eminent domain in the Carl's Jr case, possibly the EAB location and only maybe, but it sounds like the EAB site could be purchased. It's not as if the owners of the Carl's Jr site are letting their property get run down, and are refusing to sell. They are simply refusing to sell at the price that the RDA has offered. When the market is right a developer with the right amount of money will be able to buy and redevelop the parcel. If the RDA buys the EAB lot in the mean time, then they could offer the property to the developer as part of the redevelopment.

Why couldnt carl's jr still be there? Only in the base of a 40 story building??? Its not unheard of :/

[EPdesign]

Originally Posted by ajiuO

Why couldnt carl's jr still be there? Only in the base of a 40 story building??? Its not unheard of :/

I say that the owners of the land hold on to it for as long as possible. It is prime...PRIME location for a tower. Anything under 25 stories tall built there now would be a shame and a loss.

[Scraperdude801]

Originally Posted by EPdesign

I say that the owners of the land hold on to it for as long as possible. It is prime...PRIME location for a tower. Anything under 25 stories tall built there now would be a shame and a loss.

I say anything under 35 would be a shame and a loss. It has one of the most skyline altering locations in the city, and that should be capitalized on.

[ToysNoiz]

I'd like to explain why I do not like the CCH pre-design. All of the buildings are so wide that they will all block good city views. The tallest of the bunch reminds me of the demolished Key Bank Tower, which I always hated. And the site is so far from the rest of the far-view skyline that it will create another gap problem. I understand that it most likely isn't the final design plan, but if that's the kind of thing we're going to get.... I'd rather just get one boring "tower".

[ToysNoiz]

BTW. I'm working on that 111 SM photo from 222.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by ToysNoiz

BTW. I'm working on that 111 SM photo from 222.

I know your not a fan of the CCH site but could you do a photoshop skyline view including those buildings just to get an Idea of what the skyline could look like. I do agree that those group of buildings will be in their own group and far away from the rest.

[EPdesign]

I would like to see a tower go up on the North East Corner of 200s West temple, where that Parking/3 office floor building is. That is a great location too. A hotel...not the CCH but a decent height hotel could go there.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by LookUpSLC

I'm guessing Church membership back in the 60's, when the current COB was built, was around 4 M. At closer to 15 M now, I don't see how their current location handles that soze or amount of growth. Could the Church be considering building a tower to better serve it's size and growth?

And on that fantasy note, why wouldn't it be SLC's new tallest? I think a perfect space for it would be directly south of of the current COB, in between the Beehive/Lion House. 40 Stories? 50? Or better yet, why not follow one of the Quorum's names...70 stories.

Anyone in the know know of anyone talking about such a possibility?

According to KSL.com Church membership as of two weeks ago hit the 15 million milestone. http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27133385&nid=295...s-15-million&fm=home_page&s_cid=queue-10

"Church membership has tripled since 1982 when there were 5 million members"

So your guess of it being around 4 million around 1971 ( when the COB opened ) is close.

It does raise the question though just how much can that building as well as a few other smaller buildings can handle? What are the long term plans for their office spaces? 3-4 million to now 15 million during the life of the church office building so far is a BIG jump, and I'm sure at some point they ( the church ) would want or need one bigger building vs just having several smaller buildings all over the valley. Looking at it all long term it would make far more sense to have a second church office tower downtown next to or near their main office tower.
I still stand by what I said awhile back that it would be smart to first tear up the East wing, build a tower ( 30-40 stories ), move everybody out of the old COB, tear that tower down as well as the West wing, then build a 2nd tower 30-40 story tower where the west wing is now and having a plaza between the two future towers where the COB stands today. They might have to dig a much deeper hole to add more underground levels for their parking, but they could do this while building their first tower and finish with their 2nd tower. (If that makes any sense.) Therefor turning 28 floors of office space into 60-80 floors without taking up anymore land.
I always thought that now much space those wings take up while placing a tower in the middle was kind of a waste of space and that they could of had twin towers on that same piece of land.
Just a thought.

[Future Mayor]

That is an interesting proposal Projects, I had never considered that. I think the parking would be the biggest hurdle, in essence they would have to completely shut down the entire parking garage the COB block and dig it substantially deeper to accommodate more parking. I would venture to guess that when the Conference Center isn't hosting something that there is probably plenty of parking available there during the day.

Building two towers on the existing footprint sure would change the skyline. I do like the idea though. I however wouldn't be surprised to see them build a new tower possibly on the west side of the W Temple - 200 W block. I also wouldn't be surprised if they incorporated a new tower into the plans for the BYU SL and LDS BC plans on the Medals Plaza block.

It would be nice if they built it on the NE corner of 200 W and S. Temple, and place it at the sidewalk. This location could still allow for a plaza to the north, connecting to Temple Sq via the plaza between the Family History Center and Museum.