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Originally Posted by SaskScraper
This city couldn't plan its way out of a wet paper bag..
..That's exactly it, they line up 22nd street with a school zone and a gauntlet of traffic lights and then expect trucks and all west side traffic west of Circle to funnel through it. If they wanted to try & make living in Blairmore & Kensington and all new planned residential developments on the western edge more appealing they would have left highways 14 & 7 split as it had been originally and made a single overpass between the two to allow for ease of traffic each direction. No one in their right mind would build a house that far on the west side knowing that they have only one route into the city along a bottle neck like 22nd street, its a traffic nightmare like Circle Dr North waiting to happen. And now they want truck traffic to navigate through the mess too?
Also, who planned reduction to single lane East bound on Circle Dr North bridge the exact same week as South Circle Dr East bound is reduced to one lane East bound at Stonebridge as well?
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Yes they said it would be 2 weeks for Circle south to be operational. They could have waited that two weeks even at 60 with two lanes it would of been FINE to handle the traffic.
Anyway as for 22nd they really should of thought things through a little more. ALSO IMO they should close Laurier and Clancy. The people can use 11th street and 33rd as well as 22nd. The traffic that backs up with South Bridge open now is past 33rd with the timing at Laurier not so bad at Clancy but still a headache.
Right turns could still be provided at these intersection very easily with very little effort But the left turns need to disappear.
Until then Both Circle South Bridge routing and Circle North Bridge Routing from the north are both bottlenecks. Get rid of ONE of them. And closing two access (partially) would make it an easy way to fix a lot of issues.
ALSO building a connection with a 4 lane highway from the new Valley road interchange to HWY 7 then North on Dalmany road to hwy 16 with an interchange at 22nd would allow for a truck bypass without the need for the massive expenditure of the North Perimeter for the time being. Allowing this would get trucks off Circle North and off 22nd making navigation better for all.
Also with that they must build at the same time the overpass at Boychuck. Voila truck bypass complete! Amazing how a not much thinking can save you hundreds of millions eh? Humm.
For this routing what would need to be done:
- Interchange at Boychuck - $35M
- 4 lane from Valley to Hwy 7 - (2M / 1.6km) 4.8km = $9.6M
- Interchange from New link to CN yards and city yards $15-20M
- Interchange at Hwy 7 - 35M
- Completion of Interchange at 22nd - $10-15M
- 4 lane from 22nd to Hwy 16 - 15km = $19M
- Interchange at Dalmany Rd and Hwy 16 = $35M
Total = Roughly $165-200M ($750M-1B for North Perimeter) Allowing for design and environmental impact studies.
Secondary benefits to this routing:
- Can extend north of Hwy 16 to complete North Perimeter
- Trucks now have direct connection from Hwys 7 and 14 to Hwys 11 and 16 without having to go through city and can travel at 90 km/h or faster
- Trucks now have easy access to North Industrial and South Industrial areas along 11th st and South CN Industrial Via 11th street interchange and 51st ave interchange.
- Direct access to CN / City Management Yards
- Allowance to NW industrial area via interchange at Beam Road
- Allowance for 33rd St Interchange
- Allowance for Claypool Dr Interchange
- North Perimeter doesn't allow for current trucking concerns for highways 7 and 14. This does.
There is my rant enjoy.
Here is a picture of the routing that this solution would make the truck bypass:
Or a little different with the dashed line showing the connection to the eventual North Perimeter:
I will be doing detailed interchange plans as well soon. For all the white dots.