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Old Posted Aug 13, 2013, 7:47 PM
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Sheesh

North Ave
Ponce
3rd st
4th st
5th st
6th st
7th st
8th st
9th st
Peachtree PL
10th st
11th st
12th st
13th st
14th st
15th st
16th st
17th st

Williams
Spring St
West Peachtree
Cypress St
Crescent St
Peachtree St
Juniper St
Piedmont Ave
Myrtle
Penn St
Argonne
Charles Allen
Monroe


Where all those roads intersect, a basic grid is created. This is moronic.
Hahahahaha. This is my point! Where the hell on Penn and Myrtle just to name a couple where I assume you want some highrise built. If you would read and stop being so ignorant to the fact, I've already said that those areas are already developed with single detach homes. I'm sure you are not saying to tear down what's been there the over the past 60 years. The point was that people on here keep referring to an undeveloped grid in Midtown that all of these projects going up in Buckhead would be better in Midtown. I agree that a lot if the streets you mention does have a grid, but most have already been developed, especially the areas that are pedestrian friendly. Me being on the other side of Peachtree truly understands what areas down here are pedestrian friendly.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2013, 7:52 PM
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2013, 8:03 PM
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The point was that people on here keep referring to an undeveloped grid in Midtown that all of these projects going up in Buckhead would be better in Midtown. I agree that a lot if the streets you mention does have a grid, but most have already been developed, especially the areas that are pedestrian friendly. Me being on the other side of Peachtree truly understands what areas down here are pedestrian friendly.
Even just take the areas west of Piedmont. There's tons of lots to be developed in Midtown. My point is that it isn't necessary to ask "what grid?" or whatever point you are making. Buckhead clearly doesn't have the grid Midtown does. Although I'm not one of those people that wants all projects to go up in Midtown. I'm fine with development in Buckhead.

And by the way, I actually live on Piedmont in Midtown and love those neighborhoods. There's no way they're ever going anywhere.
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i was never proposing that those homes be torn down, i was merely saying that the street layout is more urban and walkable in midtown. (even off in the residential eastern side) as is currently, there is a lot more pedestrian traffic in midtown than in buckhead.
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i was never proposing that those homes be torn down, i was merely saying that the street layout is more urban and walkable in midtown. (even off in the residential eastern side) as is currently, there is a lot more pedestrian traffic in midtown than in buckhead.
Honestly, I totally agree with you.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Honestly, I totally agree with you.
I think that's how these arguements often go.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2013, 10:51 PM
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This is TRUE!!! There is no traffic issue besides rush hour. And yes, during rush hour its bad everywhere in the city.
As long as you define "rush hour" as from 8am to 7pm on weekdays and noon to 5pm on Saturday, you are completely correct.

I still know a few wacky cut-thru's from when I worked at the Pinnacle Building but even with those in my pocket I try my best to avoid Buckhead during the "rush hour". I really think the new pedestrian access from the other end of the MARTA Buckhead station will convert a bunch of car-traffic to foot-traffic. Especially for all the folks that work in retail -- much easier to get to some of those shops.

I know so many shortcuts through midtown and downtown that I never fear going through any part of those areas of town.
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Hahahahaha. This is my point! Where the hell on Penn and Myrtle just to name a couple where I assume you want some highrise built. If you would read and stop being so ignorant to the fact, I've already said that those areas are already developed with single detach homes. I'm sure you are not saying to tear down what's been there the over the past 60 years. The point was that people on here keep referring to an undeveloped grid in Midtown that all of these projects going up in Buckhead would be better in Midtown. I agree that a lot if the streets you mention does have a grid, but most have already been developed, especially the areas that are pedestrian friendly. Me being on the other side of Peachtree truly understands what areas down here are pedestrian friendly.
They say pictures are worth a thousand words... http://goo.gl/maps/cfo4E
     
     
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Pedestrian traffic in Buckhead is terrible. I've nearly mowed somebody down twice up there.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 12:31 AM
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They say pictures are worth a thousand words... http://goo.gl/maps/cfo4E
thanks for that. i was going to do something similar in the maps editor but was too lazy.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 1:22 AM
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MailChimp Eyes Ponce City Market




Real Estate publication Biznow is reporting that Jamestown Properties is in talks with MailChimp, an email marketer and division of The Rocket Science Group, to possibly move from its 512 Means St location and into more than 30k SF of space at the Midtown redevelopment.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/atlanta/mailchimp-eyes-ponce-city-market/
     
     
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Want to see something UGLY, This is Skyhouse in Houston, look how desolate and all the parking lots...You could not pay me to live there...

     
     
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 1:30 AM
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pot, meet kettle. looks good to me - light rail at your doorstep. houston's going to keep infilling like crazy with all the money flowing there right now there.
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Home Park

Will home park ever become a "nice" neighborhood? The streets are laid out so terribly it would have to be massively redone in my opinion. Someone would have to invest in a block of homes and turn them into nicer town homes / condos. That would be ideal to help turn this neighborhood around and help more safely connect Atlantic station, west side, GT and midtown, but its just not a great neighborhood at the moment. There are several broken down homes and it is sometimes fairly unsafe to be out. Nicer / more structured buildings and houses would make it a safer neighborhood. It's really just an outdated layout.

And when the GT practice hole and the GT building / trolley lot in front of ikea are redeveloped into nicer retail, it will further help connect these neighborhoods by (hopefully) a walkable / bikable core.

Any way, not sure if I see it happening any time soon unless there is serious investment.

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 2:35 AM
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Will home park ever become a "nice" neighborhood? The streets are laid out so terribly it would have to be massively redone in my opinion. Someone would have to invest in a block of homes and turn them into nicer town homes / condos. That would be ideal to help turn this neighborhood around and help more safely connect Atlantic station, west side, GT and midtown, but its just not a great neighborhood at the moment. There are several broken down homes and it is sometimes fairly unsafe to be out. Nicer / more structured buildings and houses would make it a safer neighborhood. It's really just an outdated layout.

And when the GT practice hole and the GT building / trolley lot in front of ikea are redeveloped into nicer retail, it will further help connect these neighborhoods by (hopefully) a walkable / bikable core.

Any way, not sure if I see it happening any time soon unless there is serious investment.

- unfortunate home park home owner
I say we raze it and designate it to be an adjunct to Midtown. Home Park has gotta be one of the most non-contributing areas I can think of. It sucks up prime land has a dangerous reputation, despite being surrounded by desirable stuff in basically all directions.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2013, 12:26 PM
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Re: Home Park

What is the true definition of Home Park? If you look online multiple sources have it included the area around White Provisions that many people would refer to as "West Midtown" (http://tiny.cc/1o2s1w). Assuming we're referring to the portion of Home Park between Northside and the Connector, between Atlantic Station and GT I think its safe to assume the trouble with the neighborhood is a few things. The most important is that it's pretty cut off from any other portions of the city. It's not very well connected to Atlantic Station nor does that portion of Georgia Tech's campus particular address 10th Street very well, so it acts as sort of a wall towards Home Park. Turner's campus, as well as some Georgia Tech facilities sort of separate it from Midtown across The Connector, but even then the portions of Midtown where 10th Street and 14th Street cross over don't really provide anything of interest. To the west, Northside Drive isn't a very pedestrian friendly road, effectively cutting off the neighborhood from the more trendy portion of Home Park or rather "West Midtown".

For the longest time the only food options were the fast food chains at the intersection of Hemphill, 14th, and Northside and while other stuff has moved in around the neighborhood, most of the nicer more attractive stuff has been occurring on the other side of Northside away from the more single family home portion of Home Park which as stated above isn't really super convenient if you're looking for a nice, walkable neighborhood.

I believe the neighborhoods location near GT has hurt as well as people who have owned the property in the area have utilized it all as primary rentals to college age kids. Because of its location they've never had issue renting the homes and units out to kids, so there was no reason to reinvest into their properties. This is why many of the properties are old and have hardly seen any renovations, this is also a reason why the neighborhood has been targeted by criminals - a lot of aloof college kids (many foreigners going to GT live in this neighborhood, based on my experiences there) who carry and have expensive electronics.

With that said, its only a matter of time before the neighborhood improves. There has been development along 14th Street with restaurants and other amenities, portions of Atlantic Station adjacent to the neighborhood are being (re)developed, and the area around White Provisions continues to explode. A lot of multifamily is being built in the area on the other side of Northside and all those under utilized lots between Howell / Northside & 14th and 8th Street will start to be redeveloped into residential or businesses to cater to the influx of new residents. Eventually the land in the more residential area of Home Park will become attractive enough for people to buy and redevelop and other areas, like 14th and Northside, should see redevelopment as the area becomes more attractive.
     
     
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Lastly, given that this is a forum full of dudes, it's weird that there would be so much hate for the district with the most attractive girls. Sure, Midtown is a close second, but Edgewood Avenue?
i guess you're the demographic that this video was trying to appeal to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6rIVG14ns

yes, i do think the girls that hang out at edgewood are hotter than the girls in that video. we don't all have the same preferences.
     
     
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i'm going to be honest— i like home park and i think it's charming. but the fact of the matter is that most of the homes were built for the workers from atlantic steel— they're very small, many of the streets are dirt, and it wasn't planned all that well. home park probably won't make it through this century— the property values will go up so high that it won't be worth holding out for the home owners there.
     
     
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Lastly, given that this is a forum full of dudes, it's weird that there would be so much hate for the district with the most attractive girls. Sure, Midtown is a close second, but Edgewood Avenue?
I'll take a cool Eastside girl over a pretentious Buckhead girl any day.
     
     
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I believe the neighborhoods location near GT has hurt as well as people who have owned the property in the area have utilized it all as primary rentals to college age kids.
Ding...ding...ding...

Too many investor (offsite) owners who are not likely to give up any time soon.
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