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Old Posted Jun 9, 2013, 9:21 PM
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Who are you to tell me/us what to change the culture to? I will NEVER give up my car and I will NEVER take a bus. Just HATE them. Filled my quota on those back in my University days standing freezing my ass all winter for 50 minutes once every week after my night class waiting for my transfer. Done for life.

Transit works in Toronto because if you are downtown you can only go north, west or east. Almost all transit from downtown goes north. Transit is VERY frequent and it works!

London SHOULD have a ring road and should have had cross-town freeways ages ago. Look at Lubbock Texas: full ring expressway with full service roads on both sides, full N-S freeway, and brand new billion dollar freeway from downtown W to Texas Tech, and then SW out of town. Lubbock is a little dry and sleepy but is NOT even close to being ruined and has a beautiful campus chock-full of nice Southwest architecture.

Oh, and while I'm at it, I like sprawl - I means you don't have to infill every spec of empty land in the city. I say infill make a urban area feel overcrowded!
I guess that's the difference between you and me. I would prefer London to follow the example of European cities, which have been building smart cities for many years. You want London to be the next Lubbock Texas.

You want to build a ring outside of the city limits (because it won't go inside the city limits) and I want fast transit to move people IN the city. Your vision is one of yesteryear. It will cost much, much more to build and maintain your vision and will cause much more sprawl. My vision would build up the city and cause infill and smart development. The old boys network has run London for too long.
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