Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[UTPlanner]

Good catch Future Mayor, I definitely did mean the Beneficial Life Building that just happens to have a Key Bank branch on the bottom level of the building.

Also I think I have mentioned before that the apartments at 600 W and North Temple only used the image of Mary on their drawings to show what a mural may look like on the building. They used a mural that already exists in SLC to show scale. They are not placing a mural of Mary on their building. They are working with a local artist to design something for them.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by scottharding

As to the Bennion Jewelers relocation, does that mean the Tower will be built concurrently with the PAC? Anyone know?

Not necessarily. The foundation construction of the PAC tower will be built concurrently with the PAC, but the tower itself will be built when demand deems it necessary. This is being done as to not disturb the under construction or completed PAC with ground work, such as drilling of pylons once tower construction does start. But that isn't to say that it couldn't be built concurrently if the demand is there.

One nice thing about this, if the tower doesn't start construction at the same time, when they finally do announce the start of tower construction, it won't take as long to build because the foundation work will already be completed.

[scottharding]

Well that's good news. Although, given how quickly they filled 222, I'd think they wouldn't need to wait long for 111. Especially since, as my friend there informs me, Goldman Sachs is quickly outgrowing their space.

[Future Mayor]

edited. I wait a couple of more pages before bringing it back up.

[arkhitektor]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Not necessarily. The foundation construction of the PAC tower will be built concurrently with the PAC, but the tower itself will be built when demand deems it necessary. This is being done as to not disturb the under construction or completed PAC with ground work, such as drilling of pylons once tower construction does start. But that isn't to say that it couldn't be built concurrently if the demand is there.

One nice thing about this, if the tower doesn't start construction at the same time, when they finally do announce the start of tower construction, it won't take as long to build because the foundation work will already be completed.

Does that mean that there will just be an unfinished foundation on the corner until the tower is built, or will it's pedestal be constructed without the tower like the Cascade?

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by arkhitektor

Does that mean that there will just be an unfinished foundation on the corner until the tower is built, or will it's pedestal be constructed without the tower like the Cascade?

I don't know the exact plans for what will be there. I would assume either a pedestal like the Cascade, as you mentioned, maybe the lobby and retail portions will be built. I could also see them doing some temporary retail similar to what occupied 222 between permanent uses. I can't imagine it would simply be a vacant lot.

[jedikermit]

Forum member jimmycdii is also a reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune; this article was published today about the recent CNU conference and what some of the attendees thought about the Mormon Grid:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56386379-90/lake-salt-duany-blocks.html

Urban designers in Salt Lake City praise innovations of the ‘Mormon Grid’
By Jim Dalrymple II | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 2 hours ago • Updated 37 minutes ago
Salt Lake City has betrayed its founders’ vision. That was the message delivered by renowned urbanist, architect and writer Andres Duany during recent visit to Utah’s capital. The problem, he explained during an interview at the Grand America Hotel, is that Salt Lake City’s massive streets were never supposed to be completely paved from edge to edge.

Instead, they were supposed to respond to the buildings that line them, getting wider or narrower depending on the needs of the surrounding homes and businesses.

"Right now they’re so wide and harsh," Duany said of Salt Lake City’s streets.

Duany was in town for the annual gathering of the Congress for the New Urbanism. Nearly 1,000 architects, planners and other urban thinkers showed up for the conference, which was held in Salt Lake City for the first time May 29-June 1.

Duany contrasted Salt Lake City’s current conditions to the city as laid out by Brigham Young, whom he called a master of management and the "Henry Ford of urbanism." When Salt Lake City and other Utah towns began, Young used a system called the "Plat of Zion" or the "Mormon Grid."

Read the rest at the link--great write-up and analysis of SLC's history and potential. I liked it.

[SLC Projects]

I really hope we don't have to wait any longer for 111 South Main Tower and that everything just gets built at once. City Creek Center has been open for more then a year now and we haven't heard anything about the Cascade. Til think the Cascade is about five years out and It will be very disappointing if we have to wait that long for 111 South Main.
I would think that Office demand at this point is better then Condo demand and for me it would seem downtown could use a new office highrise sooner rather then later.

[SLCdude]

I'm late to this topic, but speaking of storage containers...

An earthquake destroyed downtown Christchurch New Zealand in 2011, killing 185 people. The deadliest area (coincidentally, the center of town) was fenced off and closed off from the public. Even the iconic cathedral in the center of town had to be torn down afterward because the damage was irreparable. The city created a storage container district called Re:Start. It was meant to be a temporary fix, but It's been a big success!


Photo: City of Christchurch, NZ

[Stenar]

I love it!!!

Originally Posted by slcdude

i'm late to this topic, but speaking of storage containers...

An earthquake destroyed downtown christchurch new zealand in 2011, killing 185 people. The deadliest area (coincidentally, the center of town) was fenced off and closed off from the public. Even the iconic cathedral in the center of town had to be torn down afterward because the damage was irreparable. The city created a storage container district called re:start. It was meant to be a temporary fix, but it's been a big success!


photo: City of christchurch, nz

[UTPlanner]

I agree with you Stenar, I think it looks great. If Granary Row looked a little more like that and less like a pile of storage containers on the side of the Oakland Harbor, I wouldn't complain.

The Newhouse Apartments have secured a building permit. I'm not sure where they got the name as that area is not historically tied with Samuel Newhouse. They are located at 540 East 500 South just south of Smiths Marketplace. The building currently there should be demolished soon and a new building will rise in its place.

[delts145]

^^^
Is this the right rendering? Proposed, 72 Unit, Central City?


http://www.utahprojects.info

[UTPlanner]

The proposal has changed a bit. The elevation shown on page 1 in the development list is much closer to what they're building.

[jimmycdii]

thanks for the shout out! I am a reporter at the Tribune. I normally cover crime and polygamy but begged my editors to let me do some CNU coverage. They had to cut some stuff for space, but yeah, it was really interesting to talk to Duany about SLC.

Originally Posted by jedikermit

Forum member jimmycdii is also a reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune; this article was published today about the recent CNU conference and what some of the attendees thought about the Mormon Grid:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56386379-90/lake-salt-duany-blocks.html

Urban designers in Salt Lake City praise innovations of the ‘Mormon Grid’
By Jim Dalrymple II | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 2 hours ago • Updated 37 minutes ago
Salt Lake City has betrayed its founders’ vision. That was the message delivered by renowned urbanist, architect and writer Andres Duany during recent visit to Utah’s capital. The problem, he explained during an interview at the Grand America Hotel, is that Salt Lake City’s massive streets were never supposed to be completely paved from edge to edge.

Instead, they were supposed to respond to the buildings that line them, getting wider or narrower depending on the needs of the surrounding homes and businesses.

"Right now they’re so wide and harsh," Duany said of Salt Lake City’s streets.

Duany was in town for the annual gathering of the Congress for the New Urbanism. Nearly 1,000 architects, planners and other urban thinkers showed up for the conference, which was held in Salt Lake City for the first time May 29-June 1.

Duany contrasted Salt Lake City’s current conditions to the city as laid out by Brigham Young, whom he called a master of management and the "Henry Ford of urbanism." When Salt Lake City and other Utah towns began, Young used a system called the "Plat of Zion" or the "Mormon Grid."

Read the rest at the link--great write-up and analysis of SLC's history and potential. I liked it.

[SLC Projects]

Not sure if this has been shared yet, but I found some photos of what's being done with the old Trib. building on main street.

Link. ( Last two shows the Trib. building from Main Street )
http://m.deseretnews.com/photo/865580852
Photos by desertnews

[StevenF]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

found this.... looks to be an old concept idea for the city creek center site...
Salt Lake City Master Plan

http://elizabethday.com/gallery/album01?page=2

I am very happy with how CCC turned out. The only real thing in that rendering that says, "holly 🞵🞵🞵🞵 thats damn 🞵🞵🞵🞵", is the glass building where the First Security Building is. We also get more density with the current design than that one. I only really have 2 complaints on CCC as is now and that is I wish Regent was taller and tower 2 isn't built yet. Well make that 3 since I hope tower 2 goes back to the 400+ foot height and hope the base was built to support that height.

[DMTower]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

Forum member jimmycdii is also a reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune; this article was published today about the recent CNU conference and what some of the attendees thought about the Mormon Grid:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/56386379-90/lake-salt-duany-blocks.html

Urban designers in Salt Lake City praise innovations of the ‘Mormon Grid’
By Jim Dalrymple II | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 2 hours ago • Updated 37 minutes ago
Salt Lake City has betrayed its founders’ vision. That was the message delivered by renowned urbanist, architect and writer Andres Duany during recent visit to Utah’s capital. The problem, he explained during an interview at the Grand America Hotel, is that Salt Lake City’s massive streets were never supposed to be completely paved from edge to edge.

Instead, they were supposed to respond to the buildings that line them, getting wider or narrower depending on the needs of the surrounding homes and businesses.

"Right now they’re so wide and harsh," Duany said of Salt Lake City’s streets.

Duany was in town for the annual gathering of the Congress for the New Urbanism. Nearly 1,000 architects, planners and other urban thinkers showed up for the conference, which was held in Salt Lake City for the first time May 29-June 1.

Duany contrasted Salt Lake City’s current conditions to the city as laid out by Brigham Young, whom he called a master of management and the "Henry Ford of urbanism." When Salt Lake City and other Utah towns began, Young used a system called the "Plat of Zion" or the "Mormon Grid."

Read the rest at the link--great write-up and analysis of SLC's history and potential. I liked it.

The link to the story isn't working

[Future Mayor]

I'm not sure how soon 111 will start going up. I was in the north tower of American Towers on Sunday and from that view I could see the floors of 222. There were at least 6 floors maybe more that were vacant. That may just be the back side that is vacant, but non the less that is still a tremendous amount of vacant leasable space.

[Makid]

From what I can remember from the article that covered the Goldman Sachs shareholders meeting, I think that they are still planning to bring on roughly 300 people by the end of the year. Those 300 people could fill at least 2 if not 3 floors at 222.

We also know that the state is working with at least 3 more banks to add roughly 1000 jobs. Those types of jobs tend to like to be in cities and near others. So it is possible that 222 will be at or near 85% occupancy by the end of the year. If this happens, I do think that 111 will be built at the same time as the UPAC.

[UTPlanner]

Makid, I have to respectfully disagree, most of the banks that have come to Utah are not located downtown. For example, the Royal Bank of Scotland came to Utah and went to Taylorsville. GE Capital Bank is located in Draper. Ally Bank is located in Midvale. Most industrial banks and other banks that don't have a retail customer component are not located downtown, which I think is unfortunate.