Winnipeg Construction - Page 429

CoryB · #**8561** Posted **May 5, 2013, 10:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by lilwayne

i used to be the same up until a few years ago i never even knew about hydro bldg until it was already complete.. and i just found out about chrm after it had already been a month into construction.

i just hope the fortress development lives up to the hype.. and it compliments,, glasshouse alt, westin hotel convention center expansion, and so/po well

I still remember going to the Hydro public consultation and speaking directly with the Hydro executive in charge, I think he was their CEO. They had at least five candidate sites: west of Shaw Park where the Goldeyes play, a south tower on the Winnipeg Square pads, the parking lot at Fort and Graham, the current site, and an addition to the Bay using some of the top floors of the store and a new structure on the parkade site. My choice was the Bay location as I knew even back then that the store was in significant trouble and Winnipeg was facing a situation similar to when Eaton's closed. I also spoke strongly against what ended up being the chosen location which had a number of small yet functioning businesses suggesting that they would simply close up and be lost from downtown. The Hydro employee told me that would not happen and they would just relocate. I would like to challenge you to find me in downtown Winnipeg the Red Apple or Quiznos, among others, that closed to make way for Hydro.

I have a similar concern about Fortress and So/Po. They both seem to be chasing the same lead tenant -- the corporate office for the new Manitoba Liquor and Lotteries. It feels like there is going to be one winner and two loser here -- the developer and Winnipeg as a whole.

trueviking · #**8562** Posted **May 5, 2013, 11:29 PM**

Westin has no basement.
Westin we be overwhelmingly hotel. Possibly a single office tenant (40,000sf)
Sopo will not have a hotel.
Sopo does not have residential.
Fortress is not an office tower. It is mostly residential. Different market from sopo.

Sopo clearly has mpi and lotteries locked up. Probably agreed to when the jets came back so sellinger could be at that press conference with chipman and Thomson. The same way that mpi had a 'public rfp' process for their land and it just coincidentally went to chipman.

Downtown is losing 300 hotel rooms with the Place Louis Riel conversion. It lost 200 with the radisson conversion. All of these hotels will only add 700 rooms or so. There is a significant market not served by our hotel industry. This growth is a long time coming. Our supposed highest level hotel is the fairmont for goodness sake.

chrisallard5454 · #**8563** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

Westin has no basement.
Westin we be overwhelmingly hotel. Possibly a single office tenant (40,000sf)
Sopo will not have a hotel.
Sopo does not have residential.
Fortress is not an office tower. It is mostly residential. Different market from sopo.

Sopo clearly has mpi and lotteries locked up. Probably agreed to when the jets came back so sellinger could be at that press conference with chipman and Thomson. The same way that mpi had a 'public rfp' process for their land and it just coincidentally went to chipman.

Downtown is losing 300 hotel rooms with the Place Louis Riel conversion. It lost 200 with the radisson conversion. All of these hotels will only add 700 rooms or so. There is a significant market not served by our hotel industry. This growth is a long time coming. Our supposed highest level hotel is the fairmont for goodness sake.

What did the Radisson convert to?

DonaldSmith · #**8564** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

What did the Radisson convert to?

http://apartments.timbercreekrentals.ca/Winnipeg/apartment_rentals/160-Smith-Street/a318f38/en

DancingDuck · #**8565** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:27 AM**

First time poster, and I have a quick question: can I post pictures straight from my phone (iPhone 5) or do I have to load it onto the computer first? Thanks!

chrisallard5454 · #**8566** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

http://apartments.timbercreekrentals.ca/Winnipeg/apartment_rentals/160-Smith-Street/a318f38/en

160 Smith used to be a Radisson? I thought he was referring to the one on Portage.

Shinook · #**8567** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

http://apartments.timbercreekrentals.ca/Winnipeg/apartment_rentals/160-Smith-Street/a318f38/en

I don't believe this is reflective of The Radisson on Portage Ave.

As far as I am aware, The Radisson Hotel downtown is still a hote.

Brizzy82 · #**8568** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by lilwayne

yeeee the fence is up at portage and main wow its really going down

but i didnt see any action on dubrovinik site???

also again i must say the new stadium looks like by far the nicest stadium in the cfl from the outside. even nicer than bc place

I drove past Dubrovnik the other day, there were construction workers on site.

I'm not as up to date on this stuff as the rest of you guys, but that's where D Condo is supposed to be going, correct?

There were a few workers and at least a backhoe on site. That was on Friday.

trueviking · #**8569** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

160 Smith used to be a Radisson? I thought he was referring to the one on Portage.

Sheraton, radisson. Whatever it was at the end. The one right beside place Louis riel.

Cyro · #**8570** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

Westin has no basement.
Westin we be overwhelmingly hotel. Possibly a single office tenant (40,000sf)
Sopo will not have a hotel.
Sopo does not have residential.
Fortress is not an office tower. It is mostly residential. Different market from sopo.

Sopo clearly has mpi and lotteries locked up. Probably agreed to when the jets came back so sellinger could be at that press conference with chipman and Thomson. The same way that mpi had a 'public rfp' process for their land and it just coincidentally went to chipman.

Downtown is losing 300 hotel rooms with the Place Louis Riel conversion. It lost 200 with the radisson conversion. All of these hotels will only add 700 rooms or so. There is a significant market not served by our hotel industry. This growth is a long time coming. Our supposed highest level hotel is the fairmont for goodness sake.

All of this info seems bang on from the previous, whatever, 6,7,8 or more pages of this thread..and info provided if you go back..there were even references to mpi/loto in sopo, locked up tenants, for sopo to go forward for office space, Riel converted..also in this thread. Westin( insider knowledge reg: a hotel + some office space) the contruction of hotel space to conversions = A need for other developement of extra hotel rooms in the core? The market currently could sustain and use the extra rooms...imo..It's wpg time, I won't even start on the airport area, HSC, Mc phillips station, and whatever I've missed..It's buisness and investors feel like it's time to do buisness here?

vid · #**8571** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by DancingDuck

First time poster, and I have a quick question: can I post pictures straight from my phone (iPhone 5) or do I have to load it onto the computer first? Thanks!

Try http://www.imgur.com to post images. You can't post it here directly from your phone.

Cyro · #**8572** Posted **May 6, 2013, 12:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Brizzy82

I drove past Dubrovnik the other day, there were construction workers on site.

I'm not as up to date on this stuff as the rest of you guys, but that's where D Condo is supposed to be going, correct?

There were a few workers and at least a backhoe on site. That was on Friday.

Yes, Dubrovniks will be demolished/or maybe it has been already? D-Condos was preselling for some time so It's good to here there is activity on the site...
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drew · #**8573** Posted **May 6, 2013, 2:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

What results of foundation finesse?

Probably nothing, but personally I like the idea of extra foundation capacity versus just the right amount.

chrisallard5454 · #**8574** Posted **May 6, 2013, 2:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by drew

Probably nothing, but personally I like the idea of extra foundation capacity versus just the right amount.

Would the stadium foundation issues potentially be associated with foundation finesse? Or was that just plain old screw up?

drew · #**8575** Posted **May 6, 2013, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

Would the stadium foundation issues potentially be associated with foundation finesse? Or was that just plain old screw up?

Not sure on that one. Driven concrete piles are pretty idiot proof, so the fact they had issues means that perhaps the geo-technical advice may have been a concern there.

CoryB · #**8576** Posted **May 6, 2013, 3:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

Sopo clearly has mpi and lotteries locked up.

I am not sure about MPI and SoPo. MPI uses the CityPlace building heavily as the corporate office and already owns that building. They used to not hold at least one and a half floors that I heard have since lost their tenants. Granted it has been some time but with those huge floor plates there would still need to be some significant growth in order to support expanding operations to SoPo.

I think a much more likely tenant for SoPo is True North themselves. Granted, they currently have offices in the same building as Tavern United but with the windy path down some hallways to get there it would seem like a grant entrance into a penthouse office would be more more suited to their current stature.

From the SoPo plans that were briefly seen in their video it looked like one tower is a parkade, likely with space for MPI, a single office tower, likely Liquor and Lotteries with True North on the top floor, and a hotel.

DancingDuck · #**8577** Posted **May 6, 2013, 4:17 AM**

No real action at the D Condo site yet, however their ad in the newspaper said a "2015 possession", so they must be starting work soon.

cllew · #**8578** Posted **May 6, 2013, 11:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

I am not sure about MPI and SoPo. MPI uses the CityPlace building heavily as the corporate office and already owns that building. They used to not hold at least one and a half floors that I heard have since lost their tenants. Granted it has been some time but with those huge floor plates there would still need to be some significant growth in order to support expanding operations to SoPo.

I think a much more likely tenant for SoPo is True North themselves. Granted, they currently have offices in the same building as Tavern United but with the windy path down some hallways to get there it would seem like a grant entrance into a penthouse office would be more more suited to their current stature.

From the SoPo plans that were briefly seen in their video it looked like one tower is a parkade, likely with space for MPI, a single office tower, likely Liquor and Lotteries with True North on the top floor, and a hotel.

Only part of City Place that has any vacancies is the retail level, and that seems to be changing since the Shark Club announced its coming in.

The office tower is 4 floors of MPI, and the rest of the leasable space is taken up by the Winnipeg 311 center and two Fed Govt. offices. Not sure about the Fed offices but 311 has a long term lease at City Place.

bomberjet · #**8579** Posted **May 6, 2013, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by DancingDuck

No real action at the D Condo site yet, however their ad in the newspaper said a "2015 possession", so they must be starting work soon.

Dubrovnik's looks to be gone in the very near future. If there's a machine on site, I would say demolition could even start today. Once a proper fence goes up of course.

I think someone on here had posted that the leasing agent for Dcondo said they would like to begin construction this spring.

cheswick · #**8580** Posted **May 6, 2013, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Dubrovnik's looks to be gone in the very near future. If there's a machine on site, I would say demolition could even start today. Once a proper fence goes up of course.

I think someone on here had posted that the leasing agent for Dcondo said they would like to begin construction this spring.

I would take what a leasing agent says with a grain of salt. Checking some old email's I have from leasing agents, MySky Phase 2 was going to be complete by the end of 2011, Dennistoun was going to break ground in the spring of 2011 and complete in the fall of 2012, Studio 511 first possessions in March of 2011, and all phases of BGBX were to be completed by the fall of 2012.

The difficulty of projects like these is its a bit of a catch 22. Most developers don't want to commit to building until they reach a pre-sale threashold, but many people are unwilling to commit to a unit without firm build dates.

One exception I can think of is streetside who seem to build without any pre-sale thresholds in place.