[Moncton] Retail Thread

[mmmatt]

Originally Posted by JasonL-Moncton

I have to disagree a bit there...I just had to travel to Halifax to Henry's to buy the lens I wanted last weekend, Future Shop didn't have it, Ivan's didn't have it (certainly no one beyond those two in this city would have it).

JL

I cometely agree on the Henry's issue...disappointing...although I bought my new T3i @ Costco (it was a great deal sorry!)...the accessories are more difficult to come by.

I was just trying to say we are doing decent with regards to different types of stores in general...also I believe there have been 2 camera stores closed in SJ recently (Blacks and an "Ivan's" type store)...so perhaps we should be happy to maintain what we have!

[MonctonRad]

This is apparently the last day for Zellers at Northwest Centre on Mountain Road. Good riddance!

Bring on Target!!

[orgo]

Last day for the Fredericton Uptown Centre store as well. We should see some construction activity by the end of the month at the latest.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Why wouldn't they do OK? Wal-Mart does fine in Quebec. Costco does fine in Quebec.

Except when people try to start unions. Then they just close the Walmart stores lol. I believe it was Walmart that closed some stores in Sauganey.

I'm also kind of interested to see what's going in Champlain Phase 2. Anyone hear anything?

[OUIR@random]

RIP Zellers.

I know Zellers had many flaws and the place was rough, very rough around the edges, but it's been a staple of the Canadian retail landscape since 1931. It did not have many friends, but I'm sure it did have some loyal customers... even if every time I was there; the store was empty (staff & customers), cluttered, kinda shabby too and overpriced compared to the competition. Zellers you became irrelevant in the Canadian market, you are not the first and won't be the last... Goodbye old friend.


HELLO Target! I'm sure glad you're coming, I just hope you will give Walmart, Loblaws & Canadian Tire a run for their money. We, Canadian shoppers really deserve it. Please do what Zellers couldn't.

[SpongeG]

if the reviews of the target stores from ontario are to be believed i think target is a dissappointment so far, 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 tagret fans who shop in the states say its not that great, perhaps they don't hav ethe same selection in canada, obviously the prices are higher

[OUIR@random]

I don't think it would reasonable to think that Target in Canada will be the same as the stores in the US. Selection will be different just like it is at Home Depot and Walmart in Canada compared to the US stores. Prices will be higher at Target in Canada in comparison to the US, just like it is for every other retailer selling both in the US and Canada. They will however be competitive with other Canadian retailers. The problem with this situation comes from the manufacturers and producers more than from the retailers, but I don't think this thread is for this topic. It's a can of worm not worth opening right now on this thread.

More importantly, it will take at least a year, at least from the "real" opening (April 2013) to judge how Target is doing...

[JohnQCandNB]

Originally Posted by NBNYer

Expansion out of Quebec is already in the works. They are working on stores in Edmondon, Calgary and Vancouver..... Moncton is usually not what comes next

They have mentioned in the past that they may be looking at establishing a dozen locations outside Quebec. If their first expansion wave goes well, a New-Brunswick location may not be out of the question in a few years. They would fit in well in the Sobeys space in Champlain.. or as part of a retail development adjacent the downtown events centre. Simons stores are usually located either within suburban malls of in downtown shopping districts.

Simonds with their Stores in Quebec are all in downtown place. Sherbrooke, Quebec ( Place Laurier, 250 boutiques) Laval ( Carefour Laval, 350 boutiques)
Brossard ( Mail Champlain) Downtown ( the first in Eaton Centre )

They are building a new one, the biggest at the renovated Gallerie Anjou.

Simonds needs to come to Moncton they will have success there i think.

[JohnQCandNB]

Originally Posted by OUIR@random

Simons is just apparel (quality apparel), but not a real department store, also it's not very mainstream, it's very fashion and urban oriented. It's like a pricey H&M or Forever21, I like the brand, but I doubt it would do well here. It might do well in Canada's largest cities.
The Bay would be a welcome addition to Champlain or downtown Moncton, but I don't see Simons.

I think you don't know well Simonds store.

They have differrent variety of clothing and pricing.

This store sell clothes for anybody at good price and very various.

You can have 20$ sweaters to 150$ sweathers

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by JohnQCandNB

Simonds with their Stores in Quebec are all in downtown place. Sherbrooke, Quebec ( Place Laurier, 250 boutiques) Laval ( Carefour Laval, 350 boutiques)
Brossard ( Mail Champlain) Downtown ( the first in Eaton Centre )

They are building a new one, the biggest at the renovated Gallerie Anjou.

Simonds needs to come to Moncton they will have success there i think.

Not sure I understand what you are getting at, but as you pointed out in this post, they do have either downtown or mall locations... just as I was saying in the post you quoted. Montreal and Quebec City both have downtown locations, the others are in malls as you correctly pointed out. In Quebec city, the suburban locations are actually in Place Ste-Foy and in Gallerie de la Capitale. Place Laurier doesn't have a Simons.

[OUIR@random]

Originally Posted by JohnQCandNB

I think you don't know well Simonds store.

They have differrent variety of clothing and pricing.

This store sell clothes for anybody at good price and very various.

You can have 20$ sweaters to 150$ sweathers

First and foremost it's called Simons, and yes I know that store very well, I've been there many times before when I lived in Montreal.

I still think they are not coming here, but I've been wrong before.

[ErickMontreal]

Originally Posted by OUIR@random

First and foremost it's called Simons, and yes I know that store very well, I've been there many times before when I lived in Montreal.

I still think they are not coming here, but I've been wrong before.

Quite frankly, I do not think you are wrong on this one. For microeconomics, cultural and demographic reasons, among others I would be utterly astonished to see Simons expanding in Moncton.

After all, it took them 100 years to expand out of Quebec, I do not think Atlantic Canada is on the radar at this point.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by ErickMontreal

Quite frankly, I do not think you are wrong on this one. For microeconomics, cultural and demographic reasons, among others I would be utterly astonished to see Simons expanding in Moncton.

After all, it took them 100 years to expand out of Quebec, I do not think Atlantic Canada is on the radar at this point.

I agree with you that Simons is not likely to enter the Moncton market anytime soon. They have much bigger fish to fry in larger cities in the west, no question about that.....

I am surprised however that you list "cultural" reasons why they might not want to locate in Moncton. I would think that the ethnolinguistic and cultural make-up of Moncton (roughly one third francophone) might be attractive to a Quebec based retailer thinking of establishing a presence in Altlantic Canada.

[Stirsnack]

Was shopping at the Power center this week and noticed Additionelle has closed their doors. Did they relocate ? My wife loved that store.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Stirsnack

Was shopping at the Power center this week and noticed Additionelle has closed their doors. Did they relocate ? My wife loved that store.

Fear not, the story is that Addition-elle is relocating to larger premises elsewhere in the mall (the former Jacob store next to Sears).

EDIT - I just noticed you were talking about the Addition-elle at the Wheeler Park Power Centre. I didn't know about that.....

[Taeolas]

The one in Uptown Centre in Fredericton closed recently too. Penningtons moved into their location.

[OUIR@random]

Champlain Update:
Black's is moving next to Glamour Secrets into the former Home Essence.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by OUIR@random

Champlain Update:
Black's is moving next to Glamour Secrets into the former Home Essence.

Interesting. At least they aren't closing up shop. I wonder if the rent is less in that out-of-the-way spot.....

[OUIR@random]

...Very possibly. Less frontage and smaller in size are all factors too. Sometimes it's not a choice to move, but a requirement or you're out... But on the bright side, sometimes you are not even offered a spot. Again I say, there is no need to expand at Champlain, they will weed-out what is not wanted or needed. Simple. Sought after tenants, less and less available space, the weaker will leave, higher rents, CF wins! This is not just applicable to Champlain, but to malls in general and is not a bad thing for the retail market of the region, since it will attract nicer and better tenants, if we may call them that.

[stephan.richard]

I sawe a post on someone talking about foot traffic in the Sobeys end of Champlain Place. I think the reason why that spot does not get that heavy traffic is that there are not alot of people going to the mall to do groceries and walking to their car to drop it off and i think that Sobeys does not fit in with the model that the mall is trying to bring forward. I think if you want to generate more volume on that end of the mall id to add some stores like a The Bay to generate volume. But I find whatever stores go to that end end up either closing or relocating somewheres in the mall. I think it is time for Cadillac Fairview to start looking at opitions to see what they could bring in to generate foot traffic there.