Saskatoon Construction II - Page 213

bp832 · #**4241** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 2:12 PM**

Pilot project puts food on streets
By Charles Hamilton, The StarPhoenix March 8, 2013 7:27 AM

The City of Saskatoon has cooked up plans that would allow food trucks to park legally on public streets.

Mobile food trucks - serving up everything from Asian fusion to fish tacos, shawarma and specialty french fries - are banned from using public stalls, but a report going to the city's planning and operations committee next week recommends starting a one-year mobile food truck pilot program that would make the trucks legal.

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/life/Pilot+project+puts+food+streets/8066622/story.html#ixzz2MxQTJYyn

gowest · #**4242** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 2:17 PM**

The city really needs to look at what causes many problems on our major roadways. A very large problem is the number of heavy trucks that travel across or are passing thru the city. Go to Tim Horton's at Circle and Miller, grab a coffee a sit for an hour and count the number of large trucks going by. At the same time look at the number of trucks with Dangerous Goods placards on them. This is in no way against trucks as they have no choice. Trucks take time to speed up, slow down and to change lanes in heavy traffic as a result smaller vehicles are slowed and aggressive driving can result. Building a bridge in the north that can handle commercial traffic will result in faster and smoother traffic along Circle Drive north.
The planning of the Circle Drive south bridge did not consider much for truck traffic movement. Yes it might relieve some problems in the northeast but it is going to create new and more serious problems. Trucks will now come to the north from a different direction to the same mess at Ave C and Circle.
There should have been a direct route from the bridge to Highway #7. The residence of Montgomery spoke up about more truck traffic on 11th St and were told that would not be a problem. Wrong, why would the driver of a large truck or even small vehicles go to 22nd Street, west to Blairmore then onto Highway 7 thru heavy traffic and numerous traffic lights when they could cut off on 11th St. and go to the dangerous intersection at Highway 7. It won't take long for drivers both large and small vehicle to start using Valley Road and west to Vanscoy as a short cut. These rural roads will not take the increase in traffic and will break down quickly. Highway 7 has an extremely high vehicle count now, up to 800 vehicles an hour and is getting busier, many will use the shorter routes.
Planning of roadways is done by engineers on computers. Maybe they should listen more to people familiar with the areas, then start to plan.
The very north bridge is being designed to handle large number and sizes of traffic. The south bridge is going to cause great expense to the R.M.'s of Corman Park and Vanscoy due to serious damage to roads in there areas caused by increased traffic to and from Highway #7.
Trucks are a major part of our economy and their numbers and size are increasing, more thought needs to go into planning smoother movement for them, thus relieving the pressure for moving smaller vehicles within the city.

Jerry · #**4243** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 2:59 PM**

Cardinal says Saskatoon needs architect school

By Jeremy Warren, The StarPhoenix March 8, 2013

Architecture that respects natural forms and human needs creates the best buildings, says renowned architect Douglas Cardinal.

Saskatoon needs a school of architecture so the city's spaces are developed to serve all functions of the community, said Cardinal at public lecture at The Roxy Theatre Thursday night.

"Architecture is not just design," he told the audience. "It's a physical manifestation of the culture we are living ... I feel that (Saskatoon) is a dynamic place to develop something creative that can make a difference." [...]

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/entertainm...+school/8066634/story.html#ixzz2Mxc1bOHA

Jerry · #**4244** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 3:08 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp832

Pilot project puts food on streets
By Charles Hamilton, The StarPhoenix March 8, 2013 7:27 AM

The City of Saskatoon has cooked up plans that would allow food trucks to park legally on public streets.

Mobile food trucks - serving up everything from Asian fusion to fish tacos, shawarma and specialty french fries - are banned from using public stalls, but a report going to the city's planning and operations committee next week recommends starting a one-year mobile food truck pilot program that would make the trucks legal.

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/life/Pilot+project+puts+food+streets/8066622/story.html#ixzz2MxQTJYyn

YES YES YES

#yxecc >>

Wyku · #**4245** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 3:51 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by gowest

The city really needs to look at what causes many problems on our major roadways. A very large problem is the number of heavy trucks that travel across or are passing thru the city. Go to Tim Horton's at Circle and Miller, grab a coffee a sit for an hour and count the number of large trucks going by. At the same time look at the number of trucks with Dangerous Goods placards on them. This is in no way against trucks as they have no choice. Trucks take time to speed up, slow down and to change lanes in heavy traffic as a result smaller vehicles are slowed and aggressive driving can result. Building a bridge in the north that can handle commercial traffic will result in faster and smoother traffic along Circle Drive north.
The planning of the Circle Drive south bridge did not consider much for truck traffic movement. Yes it might relieve some problems in the northeast but it is going to create new and more serious problems. Trucks will now come to the north from a different direction to the same mess at Ave C and Circle.
There should have been a direct route from the bridge to Highway #7. The residence of Montgomery spoke up about more truck traffic on 11th St and were told that would not be a problem. Wrong, why would the driver of a large truck or even small vehicles go to 22nd Street, west to Blairmore then onto Highway 7 thru heavy traffic and numerous traffic lights when they could cut off on 11th St. and go to the dangerous intersection at Highway 7. It won't take long for drivers both large and small vehicle to start using Valley Road and west to Vanscoy as a short cut. These rural roads will not take the increase in traffic and will break down quickly. Highway 7 has an extremely high vehicle count now, up to 800 vehicles an hour and is getting busier, many will use the shorter routes.
Planning of roadways is done by engineers on computers. Maybe they should listen more to people familiar with the areas, then start to plan.
The very north bridge is being designed to handle large number and sizes of traffic. The south bridge is going to cause great expense to the R.M.'s of Corman Park and Vanscoy due to serious damage to roads in there areas caused by increased traffic to and from Highway #7.
Trucks are a major part of our economy and their numbers and size are increasing, more thought needs to go into planning smoother movement for them, thus relieving the pressure for moving smaller vehicles within the city.

I agree. While I will enjoy the quicker treks to the south-east side of the city (not having to go down 33rd to Ave. P to 22nd to Idywyld to the freeway, and the same route back) it's going to do very little if anything to eleviate traffic on Circle Dr. and make matters worse at Ave. C. The 11th street issue will also become more serious like you said; there's no reason why anyone (especially trucks) would want to go the horrible intersection at 22nd and Confed, then get through all the lights from Diefenbaker to Betts to the new turnoff onto Highway 7 instead of just taking the quick and easy route down 11th. The same would work in reverse for anyone coming in from Highway 7 to avoid the horrible 22nd and Confed intersection, and all of the traffic and lights from Blairmore to there before they can get onto Circle Dr. again. The intersection at Highway 7 would be the only reason (if you're turning left), which as you mentioned, is going to become even more dangerous.

North_Regina_Boy · #**4246** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 6:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Well, the girlfriend and I live in Arbour Creek, I commute to 58th St for work and she commutes to her work near Martensville. A commuter bridge would do wonders to improve our commute times and give us another option when there are problems on Circle Dr, which can turn a 20 min commute into 40 mins or longer. Due to the fact it'll take until at least 2016 to do something about it, coupled with the fact it seems Evergreen is one if the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city, we are most likely going to be moving to Warman later this year and say good riddance to the horrendous traffic of Saskatoon. Never thought I'd say this but man do I ever miss driving in Regina.

Haha yes by comparison Regina is BY FAR the best city to drive in. Even when I worked downtown at Rose and 12th I had a commute of 20 minutes. Lewvan being 6 lanes most of the way. With no stores on it makes it a true major arterial road.

Heck with the construction of the West Bypass the city of Regina will have a full ring road with NO commercial on it! WOOHOO!

macca · #**4247** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 7:03 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Well, the girlfriend and I live in Arbour Creek, I commute to 58th St for work and she commutes to her work near Martensville. A commuter bridge would do wonders to improve our commute times and give us another option when there are problems on Circle Dr, which can turn a 20 min commute into 40 mins or longer. Due to the fact it'll take until at least 2016 to do something about it, coupled with the fact it seems Evergreen is one if the fastest growing neighborhoods in the city, we are most likely going to be moving to Warman later this year and say good riddance to the horrendous traffic of Saskatoon. Never thought I'd say this but man do I ever miss driving in Regina.

This is a bit like saying "I moved to the Florida and it's too hot all the time so I'm moving to Dubai."

Crisis · #**4248** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 7:52 PM**

As much as many people hate urban sprawl and suburbanization even more, the bedroom communities of Warman & Martensville (even Osler, Dalmeny, Langham & Hague) make a lot of sense for anyone who works in the North Industrial area of Saskatoon. My Warman to work communte is typically about half the duration of my co-workers on the east side of Saskatoon. That's when there are no traffic problems - it gets even more pronounced when there's traffic issues in the city.

Jerry · #**4249** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 8:10 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I should mention a toll would be rediculous for the commuter bridge as it would benefit most the east side of Saskatoon by easing congestion on Circle Dr N.

Not as ridiculous as living on the east side and working on the west. Then just assuming someone will build you a bridge because of your living choice. Those days are gone.

We have to make wiser choices as the answer is not more roads and bridges. I want my city to be more compact and have a good transportation system that does not always include a private vehicle.

Jerry · #**4250** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 9:17 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I get what you're saying but who decided to build communities in the NE? It seems to me that the city should not have allowed this growth without resolving the congestion issue of the only route to the North Industrial area.

I agree with you totally it should not have been allowed. At the very least we could of a had a reliable proven bus transit system in place.

Another big issue is the boom, no one really thought it would happen here so we get the usual band-aid solution which is sprawl. City council is well aware of it and is taking steps but it just seems its never fast enough.

Quick question for you as well, do you replace iphone batteries ?

The Bess · #**4251** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 9:42 PM**

Maybe part of the solution could be for companies to stagger the start time for employees, When I worked in downtown Van they did this and it made a difference for me. I lived on Burnaby border with Van and it was 35 minutes on the express bus if I started at 6am and 1 hour if I started at 7am.

Brutopian · #**4252** Posted **Mar 8, 2013, 11:10 PM**

Regional growth plan needed: Atchison

By Jeff Davis, The StarPhoenix March 8, 2013

Saskatoon and surrounding communities must come together and craft a solid regional development plan, Mayor Don Atchison said as Corman Park prepares to table legislation relaxing laws governing how land encircling the city can be subdivided.

Atchison said he wants to increase population density in the city's core neighbourhoods.

"If you want to have more people riding rapid transit - or a light rail transit system in the future - we need to have that higher density near the core," Atchison said.

While Atchison wouldn't comment directly on Corman Park's proposal, he said he agrees with Premier Brad Wall's suggestions that municipalities work together to build coherent regional plans.

"Regional growth means looking at the entire region," he said. "That's what we need to talk about - the big picture."

Councillors from Saskatoon and Corman Park held their first joint meeting in three years earlier this week. No such meetings occurred when Mel Henry, Corman Park's former reeve, was in office.

Corman Park Reeve Judy Harwood said the RM's council is drafting legislation, with the help of an outside consulting firm, that will allow landowners more freedom to subdivide, build on and sell their land.

"It's potentially three on 80 acres," she said. "It could be five or six per quarter."

[........]

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/Regional+growth+plan+needed+Atchison/8066633/story.html#ixzz2MzbIzzkx

casper · #**4253** Posted **Mar 9, 2013, 12:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by djforsberg

I get what you're saying but who decided to build communities in the NE? It seems to me that the city should not have allowed this growth without resolving the congestion issue of the only route to the North Industrial area.

The city has been in full control. They are the developer of most of the new industrial land on the west side of the river. The city is also the developer of most of the residential on the east side of the river.

The city is starting to even things out. Hampton Village is a good start for having more residential on the Westside. Sounds like the plan is for more business parks on the East side.

I like the idea of the bridge. I would see it as part of the costs associated with the city deciding to build Evergreen and the rest of the North East sector.

Looking at the city truck routes, I would leave Circle bridge as the truck route and make this commuter bridge a non-truck-route.

http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/Infr...ck%20Route%202009%20-%20Schedule%208.pdf

The S'toon Goon · #**4254** Posted **Mar 9, 2013, 2:48 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crisis

Most likely becuase thier current landlord had bid on the Affinity property adjacent to their current office on 3rd. It would allow their new office to be either built contiguous with their existing building or joined to it by a skywalk.

I've been enlightened! Thanks! It would seem that would be the logical spot for BHP then! Hopefully they can approve the mine sooner than later and get started on an impressive building downtown!

For what it's worth, I am for the North Bridge, not that I would be using it all that much, but it would certainly help alleviate traffic going to and from the CUC!

And as for Regina being easier to drive around, I agree! It is fast and simple to get around. I wonder if it is city planning? or the lack of a river or any obstacle really to contend with? Probably a bit of both in my opinion.

Spongebob · #**4255** Posted **Mar 9, 2013, 5:12 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by The S'toon Goon

I've been enlightened! Thanks! It would seem that would be the logical spot for BHP then! Hopefully they can approve the mine sooner than later and get started on an impressive building downtown!

For what it's worth, I am for the North Bridge, not that I would be using it all that much, but it would certainly help alleviate traffic going to and from the CUC!

And as for Regina being easier to drive around, I agree! It is fast and simple to get around. I wonder if it is city planning? or the lack of a river or any obstacle really to contend with? Probably a bit of both in my opinion.

Regina was built on a grid system that runs straight north-south and east-west. I think this would allow for more efficient planning. The lack of a river system or other obstacles would be another factor in this too. But Regina is also a very compact city. I think it has the highest density population in the country. I would think this would also have some impact in how routes are designed. Saskatoon is sprawled out more making for more difficult planning. Just a theory.

skSK · #**4256** Posted **Mar 9, 2013, 8:49 PM**

New suburb to feature high-density design

By Charles Hamilton, The StarPhoenix March 9, 2013

The majority of people in Saskatoon's newest suburb will be living in apartment buildings and condos, not houses.

Instead of a proliferation of two-car garages on cul-de-sacs and wide crescents, there will be straight roads with bike lanes and busy transit routes.

Aspen Ridge is the name being floated for the neighbourhood on the city's northeast edge, and it is going to look a lot different than the neighbourhoods the city built in past decades, according to the city's top urban planner.

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/travel/sub...+design/8072569/story.html#ixzz2N4sQvQAI

Here's a map of the area from the City's website:

http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/Community%20Services/Land/Documents/UH2%20Location%20Plan.pdf

dsim249 · #**4257** Posted **Mar 10, 2013, 4:03 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spongebob

Regina was built on a grid system that runs straight north-south and east-west. I think this would allow for more efficient planning. The lack of a river system or other obstacles would be another factor in this too. But Regina is also a very compact city. I think it has the highest density population in the country. I would think this would also have some impact in how routes are designed. Saskatoon is sprawled out more making for more difficult planning. Just a theory.

Really...? I find that very hard to believe. Any stats?