PITTSBURGH | Development Rundown II

[Jonboy1983]

Originally Posted by Private Dick

Well as someone who has memorized all of the city neighborhoods, you should be more bothered by the fact that the pictures that are supposed to correspond with the neighborhoods (which is obviously used generously) don't even depict Polish Hill, the Hill District, or Carnegie. The shots are from somewhere on the north side and two shots of Oakland/South Oakland.

Yeah, it's as if it was some product from Hollywood. They're not very accurate about any particular geographical place that is well, not in Hollywood or New York for that matter...

Let's see, the last time I checked, the Duquesne Incline does not go from Station Square to South Side! At the same time, the Smithfield Street is NOT on the North Shore either! (Flashdance references)

[Steel City Scotty]

Originally Posted by Private Dick

Well as someone who has memorized all of the city neighborhoods, you should be more bothered by the fact that the pictures that are supposed to correspond with the neighborhoods (which is obviously used generously) don't even depict Polish Hill, the Hill District, or Carnegie. The shots are from somewhere on the north side and two shots of Oakland/South Oakland.

Hey, now. I said I've memorized all of the names of the neighborhoods...not what each one looks like.

[Private Dick]

Originally Posted by Steel City Scotty

Hey, now. I said I've memorized all of the names of the neighborhoods...not what each one looks like.

Oh, well, you got me beat in that department. I probably couldn't name half of them.

[ShooFlyPie]

Don't worry. I spend most of my weekends aimlessly wondering around with no recognition of the neighborhood I am in, no memory of where I was at, or no idea where the hell I am going, and I am only 32.........

[Private Dick]

Originally Posted by CubicalRebel

Don't worry. I spend most of my weekends aimlessly wondering around with no recognition of the neighborhood I am in, no memory of where I was at, or no idea where the hell I am going, and I am only 32.........

Get off the bottle, you lush!

Well, I could definitely tell you the neighborhood I'm in when I'm in Pittsburgh... just couldn't name all 80-some of them by memory.

[Steel City Scotty]

Originally Posted by Private Dick

Oh, well, you got me beat in that department. I probably couldn't name half of them.

Haha, if you'd like to find out exactly how many you can name, try taking the quiz posted at this link. I've taken it several times over the past few years, which is how I eventually learned and memorized all of the neighborhoods.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Pazzle/pittsburghneighborhoods

In case you haven't noticed by now, I'm a little obsessive-compulsive about learning facts and trivia, especially when it's related to Pittsburgh, which makes me brilliant in some ways, but probably annoying in others.

I will warn you that the quiz uses old census information. So, the population numbers are no longer accurate (although the rankings are probably still similar).

Also, be sure to split up the neighborhoods into their official "compass direction" names (ex. "South Oakland," "Upper Lawrenceville," etc.).

[Evergrey]

Originally Posted by CubicalRebel

Don't worry. I spend most of my weekends aimlessly wondering around with no recognition of the neighborhood I am in, no memory of where I was at, or no idea where the hell I am going, and I am only 32.........

This is your theme song.


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[Steel City Scotty]

Originally Posted by Evergrey

This is your theme song.


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Now, THIS is a Pittsburgh-based YouTube video we can all enjoy!

Although, I'm sure some people won't enjoy all of the sports team references...

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by CubicalRebel

Don't worry. I spend most of my weekends aimlessly wondering around with no recognition of the neighborhood I am in, no memory of where I was at, or no idea where the hell I am going, and I am only 32.........

I'm stealing this line for my signature...

Aaron (Glowrock)

[chucka]

This is so disappointing! I cannot believe they are seriously considering this building for the future home of the Pittsburgh Public Market. Unless they plan a major overhaul, this move will be the downfall of the market.

Honing in on a new Pittsburgh Public Market location

Neighbors in the Strip (NITS) has zeroed in on a new home for the Pittsburgh Public Market.

As the public market works to move out of the Pennsylvania Fruit Auction & Sales terminal building expected to be redeveloped by the Buncher Co., NITS is now negotiating final lease terms for a 27,000-square-feet cinder block building on Penn Avenue and 24th Street.

Location of the building:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.453802,-79.980419&spn=0.000768,0.001321&t=h&z=20

[photoLith]

Its a pretty god awful building but I think a lot could be done to make it look better.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by chucka

This is so disappointing! I cannot believe they are seriously considering this building for the future home of the Pittsburgh Public Market. Unless they plan a major overhaul, this move will be the downfall of the market.

Honing in on a new Pittsburgh Public Market location





Location of the building:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.453802,-79.980419&spn=0.000768,0.001321&t=h&z=20

So they renovate it and it ends up being a great location. What's the problem here? The downfall of the market? Frankly, the market isn't doing so well where it is right now to begin with. So where would you like to see the public market end up? Any suggestions?

Aaron (Glowrock)

[BrianTH]

The idea of the Public Market being in the Produce Terminal was very romantic, but at the end of the day it needs to be in the best space for the market to actually function. It sounds like they are excited about what they can do in their new space, so I am excited for them.

By the way, I believe this is just a short block from Wigle Whiskey, so I see some synergy there.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

The idea of the Public Market being in the Produce Terminal was very romantic, but at the end of the day it needs to be in the best space for the market to actually function. It sounds like they are excited about what they can do in their new space, so I am excited for them.

By the way, I believe this is just a short block from Wigle Whiskey, so I see some synergy there.

Not to mention at the end of the day the Produce Terminal is going to be shrunk down quite a bit in overall length. And honestly, after having spent a good amount of time the last couple of weekends in the Strip District, I've come to the conclusion that it's a good thing! Let's face it, a 1000+ foot long warehouse building isn't exactly the most pedestrian-friendly thing on earth, especially one with such terrible pedestrian access (Smallman St. is a bad street in general for pedestrians right now, unfortunately). If, and it's a big if, Buncher's plan can actually really activate the Produce Terminal by demolishing roughly a third of it in order to facilitate vehicular and pedestrian access to the current immense sea or surface parking behind it, then I'm all for it.

As for the Public Market, as long as those who organize and run the facility are happy about a potential move then who am I to judge? I actually think extending the main pedestrian area of the Strip District a couple of blocks north is an excellent idea. I hope this building serves them very well far into the future!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[markson33]

Architects can do wonders when they want to. If they have the budget, that cinder block building could be turned into something really nice. I will reserve judgment until I see the final product.

[Evergrey]

I fear that the new location may be just a little too far outside the "heart" of the Strip District market area. Things die down pretty quickly around 24th. There is a whole block of vast urban-fabric-shredding surface parking seperating the this facility from the eastern edge of the vibrant area (starting around Firehouse/Penn Ave Fish).

[Steel City Scotty]

It's now officially closed until September...

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/loca...-liberty-shadyside-bridge-closes-677930/

Pittsburgh's East Liberty-Shadyside bridge closes
$2.9 million project to replace span severs the link through September
March 5, 2013 12:11 am
By Kaitlynn Riely / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Ginny Smiley, owner of Smiley's Pet Pad in Shadyside, has mixed feelings about the South Highland Avenue Bridge.

For the more than a decade that her store has been located on South Highland Avenue, the bridge has carried traffic to her store. But she knew it was old and rusted and needed to be replaced.

On Monday, the process of replacing the bridge began, with a $2.9 million project that will keep the 117-foot span that links East Liberty and Shadyside closed to foot and vehicle traffic through September.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/loca...side-bridge-closes-677930/#ixzz2Mft5SrQC

[Private Dick]

Originally Posted by Evergrey

I fear that the new location may be just a little too far outside the "heart" of the Strip District market area. Things die down pretty quickly around 24th. There is a whole block of vast urban-fabric-shredding surface parking seperating the this facility from the eastern edge of the vibrant area (starting around Firehouse/Penn Ave Fish).

Yup, exactly what I was thinking.

Now, in the long term, this area may very well be incorporated much better into the main "heart" of the Strip... and there would be no issue.

However, endeavors like the public market generally don't have the ability to endure a short term lack of business... and depend on almost wholly on foot traffic in directly adjacent surroundings. Though, with the new apartments in the area (and hopefully more to come), maybe they are set up pretty nicely there... just hope they can last.

[Jonboy1983]

Originally Posted by glowrock

Not to mention at the end of the day the Produce Terminal is going to be shrunk down quite a bit in overall length. And honestly, after having spent a good amount of time the last couple of weekends in the Strip District, I've come to the conclusion that it's a good thing! Let's face it, a 1000+ foot long warehouse building isn't exactly the most pedestrian-friendly thing on earth, especially one with such terrible pedestrian access (Smallman St. is a bad street in general for pedestrians right now, unfortunately). If, and it's a big if, Buncher's plan can actually really activate the Produce Terminal by demolishing roughly a third of it in order to facilitate vehicular and pedestrian access to the current immense sea or surface parking behind it, then I'm all for it.

As for the Public Market, as long as those who organize and run the facility are happy about a potential move then who am I to judge? I actually think extending the main pedestrian area of the Strip District a couple of blocks north is an excellent idea. I hope this building serves them very well far into the future!

Aaron (Glowrock)

Glowrock, I must say that when I first saw this last night I was not at all impressed. When I saw its overall location on the map provided in the link posted, it actually made more sense. The Cork Factory Lofts are only a couple of blocks away, and even closer yet is the Lot 24, which is getting closer to completion. Below this building is a massive surface lot that is pleading for development. Perhaps that could be targeted for a potential expansion of the public market?

Aren't they doing something with the piece of land catacorner to this surface lot between 21st and 23rd Streets along Smallman?

I could see longer term success of the public market and of the overall vibrancy of this neighborhood. Something like this could give the Strip beyond 21st street more of a heart beat. It looks like it's in need of some investment. I see there is a white masonry building with a second-floor balcony. Is that vacant? I could see a restuarant there...

[DBR96A]

Originally Posted by Evergrey

rare good news from the airport

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/loca...-add-nonstop-flight-to-nashville-677857/

A flight from the next Portland to the next Austin. Interesting.

Originally Posted by East Edge

WOW! That video sucks so much ass. Shit like this is what gives outsiders the impression that we are small hick town in BF USA. Isnt there any cool, edgie vids out there that can work as an attraction tool for the hip creative class to join our midst?

The difference between yinzers and other Pittsburghers is that yinzers are much better at marketing. It's so effective that it's borderline propaganda. After all, it's succeeded in a) convincing other yinzers that they're the most authentic Pittsburghers of all, and b) making outsiders think that yinzer culture is the alpha and omega of Pittsburgh culture.