Winnipeg Construction

[1ajs]

certanly screams winnipeg

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by headhorse

There's a Westland trailer at 548 Stradbrook for their other 5468796 project.

Mistecture also has a new rendering up for their project at 373(?) Stradbrook


from: http://mistecture.com

boring and uninspiring.

[headhorse]

yep, but somehow still better then the first rendering they released.

[rrskylar]

At first glance based on the name I thought it was a site dedicated to bad architecture, then I looked at their site and realized my initial thought was correct.

They could alter the name a little to truly represent what they do, Mistaketure.com

[CoryB]

Just had a first hand experience that demonstrated how wrong attempting to force the SHED to happen is. I had a chance to visit Westgate City Center in Glendale, which is essentially their SHED concept built around a hockey arena. Granted the business of hockey is a little different in each city but they had numerous empty store fronts even ones in the most prime locations. I then did some reading on it and found out the developer actually ended up being forced into bankruptcy. Definitely seems like there are some lessons to be learned there.

[vid]

It's better than what they're building here.

[Mininari]

Curious about some construction I saw on South Pembina Highway today... what is going up at the Richmond West Plaza? (opposite the zellers-safeway). Obviously an expansion of the strip mall, but does anyone know what the tenant(s) is... or what the space will be for? Looks like it could be a (large) restaurant, but maybe a bank branch?

btw, has anyone taken a driven around town lately? There is construction of all shapes and sorts in virtually every part of town these days... whether it be suburban condos (bleh), strip malls (bleh), or urban condos and infill, and now we've got tower cranes popping up.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Curious about some construction I saw on South Pembina Highway today... what is going up at the Richmond West Plaza? (opposite the zellers-safeway). Obviously an expansion of the strip mall, but does anyone know what the tenant(s) is... or what the space will be for? Looks like it could be a (large) restaurant, but maybe a bank branch?

MLCC new branch.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by Mininari

btw, has anyone taken a driven around town lately? There is construction of all shapes and sorts in virtually every part of town these days... whether it be suburban condos (bleh), strip malls (bleh), or urban condos and infill, and now we've got tower cranes popping up.

Yuppers, do it almost everyday , as in driving all over the city and parts of the province. It is a lot different then those folks that take a bus or the ones the drive from their garage to the parkade then walk to work lol, Or the special people that live 700 kms to the east and live on Google Earth, right MR Vid

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Just had a first hand experience that demonstrated how wrong attempting to force the SHED to happen is. I had a chance to visit Westgate City Center in Glendale, which is essentially their SHED concept built around a hockey arena. Granted the business of hockey is a little different in each city but they had numerous empty store fronts even ones in the most prime locations. I then did some reading on it and found out the developer actually ended up being forced into bankruptcy. Definitely seems like there are some lessons to be learned there.

seriously never heard of this before? this has been in the news since the 'Yotes moved to Glendale many years ago. You dodn't follow all the Mayor Scruggs and little jimmy crying over their town council meetings? not only is the developer bankrupt but the city og Glendale is almost bankrupt.

[bryanscott]

Originally Posted by vid

They're neat but I think they'll look dated in a few years.

I think they look dated already. In fact, I think they miss the mark completely. Sure, they add some colour to the streetscape, but do they actually add light? Barely. The city should have taken a more classic approach to street lighting. This concept is over-thought, over-designed, and really just kind of goofy.

[dpenner]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Just had a first hand experience that demonstrated how wrong attempting to force the SHED to happen is. I had a chance to visit Westgate City Center in Glendale, which is essentially their SHED concept built around a hockey arena. Granted the business of hockey is a little different in each city but they had numerous empty store fronts even ones in the most prime locations. I then did some reading on it and found out the developer actually ended up being forced into bankruptcy. Definitely seems like there are some lessons to be learned there.

Way different circumstances, the Glendale westgate center is a single use zone that is strictly entertainment, situated in a suburb away from downtown phoenix. I agree that single use designated entertainment zones are not the best idea and usually fail. They are only active during active hours and dead zones the rest of time, they usually gravitate towards generic chain stores and restaurants which can be found anywhere and are less of a draw, among many other faults. Also in Glendales case it was a single developer who constructed the entire development (there are numerous problems with a single developer doing it). The reason i think winnipeg's shed has a chance is that it is a mixed use zone that is seeing a blossom of residential units being constructed within its confines, its in a prime downtown location, and although true north is certainly playing a huge role there are other developers engaged in it. Its almost night and day between glendale and winnipeg.

On another note those lights suck, not a fan. As bryan said a classic approach would of been better suited since they wont go out of style in 5 years and always remain "classic"......

Also free press article today about Penthouse and H20 switching to rentals because they couldnt move any of the condo units.....not neccesarily a bad thing, i welcome more rentals to the exchange.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by dpenner

Also free press article today about Penthouse and H20 switching to rentals because they couldnt move any of the condo units.....not neccesarily a bad thing, i welcome more rentals to the exchange.

True, not a bad thing for the reason stated. However for the investors in this building, and future investors in future buildings the rate of return on a rental building is very low compared to if a building is sold off as condos. Having expected a quick ROI and not getting it may sour this type of investment somewhat locally.

[drew]

The owner of 100 Princess was aware of the soft Condo market long before the building was finished. It was planned for rentals, or rent-to-own.

Its really not an indication of anything other than:

no parking on site = rental.

parking on site (particularly indoor) = condo

Its understandable that people may be wary of throwing down $300k (or more) on a place and having to park a couple blocks away, outdoors.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Riverman

True, not a bad thing for the reason stated. However for the investors in this building, and future investors in future buildings the rate of return on a rental building is very low compared to if a building is sold off as condos. Having expected a quick ROI and not getting it may sour this type of investment somewhat locally.

I have to agree that it may discourage future development. With the struggle streetside is having with their James Ave building I don't think they're gonna be in any rush to move on to the other buildings they had originally planned. Went to an open house last weekend there. I think they only had a single unit sold and had about 6 finished units available to view.

[drew]

Originally Posted by cheswick

I have to agree that it may discourage future development. With the struggle streetside is having with their James Ave building I don't think they're gonna be in any rush to move on to the other buildings they had originally planned. Went to an open house last weekend there. I think they only had a single unit sold and had about 6 finished units available to view.

parking parking parking parking...

[headhorse]

Michael Mark has no ideas why his condo units aren't selling.

[headhorse]

Originally Posted by cheswick

I have to agree that it may discourage future development. With the struggle streetside is having with their James Ave building I don't think they're gonna be in any rush to move on to the other buildings they had originally planned. Went to an open house last weekend there. I think they only had a single unit sold and had about 6 finished units available to view.

you must have went on the opening day of their open house, because it didn't open until Feb. 10. the Market building has 11 of 15 sold (as of over a month and a half ago). Not sure how sales have been for the building on James since the show suite opened but I know it helped when the building on Market opened theirs.

[Mininari]

Originally Posted by Biff

MLCC new branch.

Thanks. That means the existing store in that area will then be open for a new tenant.

Just had my first look in the liquor express at the Pembina Safeway this morning (don't generally go to that one). I didn't realize they would be selling spirits too... looks great, very handy. I wouldn't mind seeing this concept pop up in a few other grocery stores (that aren't immediately beside a liquor mart).

[headhorse]

trueviking was on CJOB at 10 am today talking about development, anyone catch it? Winnipeg development hits, misses and dreams.