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[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by Notyrview

I don't think 111 will be that interesting, but they are being pretty selective with the glass, so it will probably turn out good.

Yeah because the Saran wra... er... I mean glass turned out so well on Related's other project in Chicago... I don't have good feelings about this project right now, but will withhold judgement until it's at least mostly complete.

[J_M_Tungsten]

^ specifically which ones don't you like and why?

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten

^ specifically which ones don't you like and why?

he's got to be either talking about 340 o the park or 500 N LSD, as those are the only other glass facade buildings that Related has done in chicago.

i don't find either to be particularly offensive on the glazing front, but to each their own i suppose.

[Rizzo]

The butt-joint curtainwall can't be done well in a high rise application on the cheap. Probably 99% buildings around town have wavy glass, but you just can't see it because of how the building is designed. Buildings with deeper mullions or solid wall with punched openings take your eye off the glass enough. Remove all that extra detail and it's just a massive expanse of glass and the imperfections really stand out.

It looks flattest when it has nothing to reflect. Maybe 111 will be fine. The gap of the river will reveal more sky in the reflections hiding the saran wrap look.

[Notyrview]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Yeah because the Saran wra... er... I mean glass turned out so well on Related's other project in Chicago... I don't have good feelings about this project right now, but will withhold judgement until it's at least mostly complete.

340 OTP looks great

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten

^ specifically which ones don't you like and why?

The only one they have under construction right now, 500 N LSD. Pardon my french, but that building looks like shit. The curtain wall has no redeeming qualities and looks nothing like the rendering (which actually looked pretty good) in real life. I was hoping for the wonderful contrast we saw on that new John Buck tower on Wacker, not the terrible saran wrap, cheap, off green crap they put on it. You can hardly see the coloration pattern on the building at all unless it is under the perfect conditions or angle otherwise it is just faint enough that you go "wait, what were they trying to do here?". 500 N LSD is a complete mess and will look like the shitty brown 80's towers in Streeterville in another 30 years once it's got some age on it. I've been hoping that it will look better once they clean the glass for the first time, but I expect that will yield a marginal improvement at the very best.

Hopefully they won't botch this one too (though this design sucks) and will go more along the lines of 340 On the Park which is a beautiful tower. One last thing, if you want to see glass done right, then look no further than the Roosevelt tower. That's how building materials should look when used appropriately and not completely cheaped out on. If Related cheaps out on this tower I'm going to lose all faith in their ability to produce anything that resembles a quality product anymore.

[harryc]

Ben Franklin lives on

[Theoryg]

Overall I like the new design. Still though it wont make much of a dent in Chicagos stiff skyline. For now though the new tower for the site will make the mark and surely more for pedestrians then anything else.

[Design-mind]

Awesome updates harryc!

It is great to see the crane finally being installed, and this project moving forward.

[seadragon]

With all of the FEA (finite element analysis) software available to model glass flexure, these simple windows of non optical quality being an academic exercise, hope the windows photographed by Harry C, and thank you for sharing, are not representative of the quality of glass which will installed.

The glass used for the windows showing stress that is being induced by both the mounting points and more than I would like to see, along with worst, high levels of surface irregularities that appear to be inherent in the material. The stress (presuming a float glass process) appearing to be a function of irregular surface cooling or too rapid a cooling of the surface, like a cost reduction measure with the gas furnaces, or too rapid a manufacturing line, resulting in large thermal gradients to form between the first and second surfaces, the deformations becoming trapped during phase transition (solidification point). Thus, leaving the glass with a very high level of residual stress, a.k.a. full of ripples.

In addition, wonder what the glass looks like up close, and if the glass is relatively free of bubbles and striae?

[Skyguy_7]

111 W Wacker, early this morning. Was crane base poured yesterday?

[harryc]

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

111 W Wacker, early this morning. Was crane base poured yesterday?

No - still working on the mat in the air - possibly the support beams were poured, but I don't think so (didn't see any concrete trucks and the crane was in the way).

[harryc]

Never seen this done before - probably due to the change in design.

Drilling - these guys LOVE to drill - a constant sound for the last week or so


Sometimes it takes a few trys

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Note the bleached safety strap, these have been urban wind chimes for the last few years.

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Going up ?

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[harryc]

Feb 4
Building the base of the form for the reinforced concrete support pad.


The little safety fence went up first



Feb 5
More of the drilling


Lotsa Holes


Feb 6
Expecting a bit of tension here.

[HomrQT]

Here's a random question, are only top tier construction workers hired to do work on these large building sites, or are mistakes and poor workmanship a "thing"?

[seadragon]

Originally Posted by HomrQT

... are only top tier construction workers hired to do work on these large building sites, or are mistakes and poor workmanship a "thing"?

Hello HomrQT

Please elaborate on your posting, along with your experience at drilling concrete columns reinforced with rebar which were not designed from the start for this sort of engineering change order.

From the nice collection of multi angle pictures taken by Harry C (thank you) this looks like a good crew doing some good work.

You see different?

[J_M_Tungsten]

^ I think he was just asking a question.

[HomrQT]

Originally Posted by seadragon

Hello HomrQT

Please elaborate on your posting, along with your experience at drilling concrete columns reinforced with rebar which were not designed from the start for this sort of engineering change order.

From the nice collection of multi angle pictures taken by Harry C (thank you) this looks like a good crew doing some good work.

You see different?

Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten

^ I think he was just asking a question.

It was just a question in general. Looking at those drilling photos above I have no ability to gauge a job being well done or not as I have very limited knowledge about construction sites. Was wondering a little more about the dynamics of of the building process. Such as delays or afterwork being necessary because of a poor construction job, or are only the best of the best construction workers deployed and as such mistakes are almost non-existent.

[harryc]

Originally Posted by HomrQT

It was just a question in general. Looking at those drilling photos above I have no ability to gauge a job being well done or not as I have very limited knowledge about construction sites. Was wondering a little more about the dynamics of of the building process. Such as delays or afterwork being necessary because of a poor construction job, or are only the best of the best construction workers deployed and as such mistakes are almost non-existent.

If mistakes were non-existent, then you wouldn't need the highly paid pros, if They don't make ANY mistakes, then they aren't being pushed hard enough. It is a delicate balancing act.

And then there are always days ......
(345 E Wacker)

[daperpkazoo]

Pretty cool seeing the unique way they are putting the crane in. Has anyone seen similar done before?

Thanks for the detailed photos of the process, Harry.