The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by Peter_johnns

Not sure if you are simply misunderstanding me, or you just are reading up on these things. The pipeline is not going to rip kms of forests down. It will connect with existing pipelines heading eastward and perhaps travel along or under proposed highways. I really can't be certain about what it will mean because it is only in early discussions. As of now oil is being shipped from the south and by rail. Before you post exasperating comments, try doing a bit of research.

This pipeline in particular is not a topic about which I'm obsessed; although, I have read some material -- and my understanding was that portions of forest would have to be cleared for new, modernised pipelines.

In any case, the removal of forests is secondary to my concerns about our issue of continued usage of fossil fuels. Burning that additional carbon is the more influential danger.

My original request remains: What do you mean by less environmental harm?

[Peter_johnns]

I think Ryejay is secretly anti- SJ

[cdnguys]

A new park has been announced for South End. It will be located atop the Diamond Jubilee building, addressing desire by residents to have more access to the waterfront.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by JHikka

By south I was referencing Moncton/Shediac.

Do you think more travel to the Péninsule-Acadienne than to Dieppe/Shediac/Moncton? I'd be interested to see some numbers either way. I think it would be difficult to compare the old routes against a possible new route that doesn't actually exist yet if you're using Google Maps. There is a planned route for the Trans-Maine floating around somewhere, which would result in guesswork more than anything else when calculating distances. You would also have to take into account where people would be travelling FROM in Quebec.

The Caraquet area and Shediac (for Parlee Beach) would be the top two destinations for travellers from Quebec in NB.

[Peter_johnns]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

A new park has been announced for South End. It will be located atop the Diamond Jubilee building, addressing desire by residents to have more access to the waterfront.

Has there been any renderings of this park? That sounds very cool. But all of the harbour front on Water st. should be accessible to the public in some sort of form. It is a farce that land like that is fenced off.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by Acajack

The Caraquet area and Shediac (for Parlee Beach) would be the top two destinations for travellers from Quebec in NB.

I'm not surprised by Parlee but i'm curious about Caraquet. Perhaps there's more there than what i'm seeing.

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by Peter_johnns

I think Ryejay is secretly anti- SJ

What is your evidence? ...me disagreeing with you?

If that's the case, I've seen numerous other forumers here who, therefore, must be anti-Saint John.

I am simply trying to have deeper, involved conversations. It's fine if you cannot.

And I love Saint John, btw. I have stated numerous times that I want Uptown to grow.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by JHikka

I'm not surprised by Parlee but i'm curious about Caraquet. Perhaps there's more there than what i'm seeing.

It's the Acadian cultural capital - lots of stuff going there in the summer. Among other things the Village historique acadien is there. Many people see this area as the true heart of authentic Acadia and so if they want to soak in the culture, that's where they go.

Another reason is that historically northern NB Acadians (especially those from the peninsula) tended to migrate to Quebec more than those in the SE, so a lot of people in Quebec have family members and roots in this region.

25,000 people in the streets in a town of 5,000 is not something you see every day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm-FW7kJhs

[Peter_johnns]

Originally Posted by RyeJay

What is your evidence? ...me disagreeing with you?

If that's the case, I've seen numerous other forumers here who, therefore, must be anti-Saint John.

I am simply trying to have deeper, involved conversations. It's fine if you cannot.

And I love Saint John, btw. I have stated numerous times that I want Uptown to grow.

It was a joke. Try to not go on too large of tangents, keep relevant to SJ growth.

[Helladog]

I read in the paper, councillor John MacKenzie wants City Hall to relocate. Coun. Farren would like to see the city take over the old courthouse. Apparently the city pays $130 000 to 140 000 per month for rent for the current space at city hall.

[Peter_johnns]

Originally Posted by Helladog

I read in the paper, councillor John MacKenzie wants City Hall to relocate. Coun. Farren would like to see the city take over the old courthouse. Apparently the city pays $130 000 to 140 000 per month for rent for the current space at city hall.

The court house is not an option for city hall unless it was expanded upon. It would be cool if they built on top of the court house like the Hearst Tower in NYC

[Peter_johnns]

But obviously on a smaller scale. Same idea thought would work well on the old court house

[michael_d40]

Originally Posted by dhottawa729

Yes, please cut it out with the off-topic discussions. I'd rather see no posts than to see pages of this every morning. You're making this site lose influential readers no doubt.
I remember the good 'ol days when Kwajo, Helladog and Michael_d40 were the "leaders" of this forum and provided all good stuff. They are what got me hooked and I've visited this site at least twice a day since Page 50. Please, no need to respond to this; just post something interesting and development-related or nothing at all from now on.

I'm still around. I just avoid posting now as it does tend to get way off-topic lately.

In any event.. Here's a couple pictures of the Cambridge Estates proposed expansion.

[cdnguys]

Are those apartment buildings with parking in between? Hard to see detail of plans.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Are those apartment buildings with parking in between? Hard to see detail of plans.

Yes they are. This is the area they wanted rezoned from 'residential family' to '3-4 storey residential'. The bottom left Apartment building will have 27 units. The larger two in the top right will have 21, and the smaller buildings will have 15 units each. There are also three new apartment buildings off of Boars Head Road behind the Wesleyan Church that went up a year or two ago. The land to the west and south of Cambridge Avenue is owned by Barsa Ventures (Prestige Homes) (http://www.prestigehomes.ca/qhome/locations.html), land to the northeast is Public, and land to the southwest is in the estate of a Jean F. MacFarlane

I'm really interested to see how much land can be developed as this is a large area of the city that has yet to be utilized. Cambridge Estates, along with the new Baptist Church on Forbes Drive, is slowly eating away at all that empty land.

There was a bylaw forwarded to City Council last night to remove 12-14 Bentley Street from the Heritage Conservation Area. I will check with Planning and Development Thursday to see what's up.

As well, King Mazda is looking at expanding their parking lot along Rockwood Avenue, off of Rothesay Avenue. None of the residents seem very pleased about this at all.
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I'd like to make a request for a mod to clean up the mess that this thread has been the last few pages.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by JHikka

Yes they are. This is the area they wanted rezoned from 'residential family' to '3-4 storey residential'. The bottom left Apartment building will have 27 units. The larger two in the top right will have 21, and the smaller buildings will have 15 units each. There are also three new apartment buildings off of Boars Head Road behind the Wesleyan Church that went up a year or two ago. The land to the west and south of Cambridge Avenue is owned by Barsa Ventures (Prestige Homes) (http://www.prestigehomes.ca/qhome/locations.html), land to the northeast is Public, and land to the southwest is in the estate of a Jean F. MacFarlane

I'm really interested to see how much land can be developed as this is a large area of the city that has yet to be utilized. Cambridge Estates, along with the new Baptist Church on Forbes Drive, is slowly eating away at all that empty land.

There was a bylaw forwarded to City Council last night to remove 12-14 Bentley Street from the Heritage Conservation Area. I will check with Planning and Development Thursday to see what's up.

As well, King Mazda is looking at expanding their parking lot along Rockwood Avenue, off of Rothesay Avenue. None of the residents seem very pleased about this at all.
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I'd like to make a request for a mod to clean up the mess that this thread has been the last few pages.

Do you know if they are being built at once or is this like a 20 year plan? Also, Noel Ave how many buildings are currently going up? Thanks

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Do you know if they are being built at once or is this like a 20 year plan? Also, Noel Ave how many buildings are currently going up? Thanks

I haven't any idea. I'm sure I can check with Planning & Development when I inquire re: Bentley Street. If you'd really like to know I suppose you could email Debly (there's an email in the Prestige Homes link I posted earlier).

The current construction on Noel seems to be one apartment building, at most three storeys. I think both this and Somerset have been slowed by the weather recently. Hopefully it improves for them in the coming weeks. It's good infill for the area. I'm not sure if they're looking at continuing on with the street or not..Google Maps says that Noel Avenue loops around and connects with a Clovelly Drive. It currently doesn't actually do this but I can see where they could do so in the future.

[Peter_johnns]

Originally Posted by nwalbert

Lets try and keep the conversation on topic. Please, no more scientific discussion, this is not the forum.

That is what i am trying to say. This is not the place for a global warming debate lol

[Xelebes]

Hello folks, I've just cleaned up this thread. Let's not have tired derails that have little to anything to do with Saint John's and the region. If you can keep it to a local level (which generators need to be replaced), that's great. If not, we have threads in the Skybar for the more broad issues.

[phishy]

Originally Posted by JHikka

There was a bylaw forwarded to City Council last night to remove 12-14 Bentley Street from the Heritage Conservation Area. I will check with Planning and Development Thursday to see what's up.

Not sure what you need to check on. That property is to be removed from the Heritage Conservation Area. It is one of only 2 properties which was designated on Bentley as part of the Douglas Ave district. It should never have been designated in the first place, and the building has no heritage value, it has been destroyed by "improvements" over the years and is not recoverable. In this case removing the property (too far gone, on the edge of a district, shouldn't have been designated in the first place, etc) is the right thing to do. This does NOT open the door for anyone to be removed from the Conservation Area, it is a very specific and individual circumstance.