[St. John's] The Official Project Thread - Page 297

statbass · #**5921** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by AllBlack

You'll be waiting awhile. Let's hope that the Fortis retrofit goes quicker than the TD reclad. I posted in July 2011 (p. 131) that scaffolding had started on the Water St side of the TD building. So it's been 18 months and there's still a bunch of work to do (including getting the red brick off the top for Townie709...

).

Oh yes, I realize that.

AllBlack · #**5922** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by statbass

Oh yes, I realize that.

Oh I know, and sorry if I came across as snide or as if I was breaking any news.

It just amazes me how slow the pace has been. I was speaking recently with an acquaintance in the commercial property management business, and he said that many TD tenants are unhappy. They dealt with leaking windows for years, then a lengthy construction period and (for a time) no windows at all. Several tenants were relocated to other properties during the process.

statbass · #**5923** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by AllBlack

Oh I know, and sorry if I came across as snide or as if I was breaking any news.

It just amazes me how slow the pace has been. I was speaking recently with an acquaintance in the commercial property management business, and he said that many TD tenants are unhappy. They dealt with leaking windows for years, then a lengthy construction period and (for a time) no windows at all. Several tenants were relocated to other properties during the process.

Ha ha... no worries - I felt no snideness (not sure if that's a real word) from your comment.

. I do agree the TD re-cladding is taking quite some time, although it does seem to be a pretty substantial project.

SignalHillHiker · #**5924** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:20 PM**

Most. Boring. Fight. Ever.

statbass · #**5925** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Newfoundlander

Most. Boring. Fight. Ever.

LOL... If you're looking for a war of words on SSP - sorry, but you're probably looking at the wrong person. I guess this is how pacifists argue....

SignalHillHiker · #**5926** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:31 PM**

I love it.

statbass · #**5927** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Newfoundlander

I love it.

I guess you're envisioning AllBlack and I sitting in a study with a cup of tea in our hands, smoking pipes and politely debating about the Fortis retrofit. Oh, and of course we have beards and British accents....

SignalHillHiker · #**5928** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:47 PM**

And you're on an airplane.

rwspencer38 · #**5929** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:49 PM**

Surprised this hasn't been brought up as it goes before council tonight....

http://happycity.ca/blog/posts/2012/dece...ting-december-10th-to-fence-the-harbour/

Council plans to restrict the entire length of the harbour front except for harbour side park. I was in favor of the beaitful wall, but I dislike not having access.

statbass · #**5930** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 6:58 PM**

Why are they doing this? It seems so backwards; a lot of people enjoy walking/jogging the harbour front.

SignalHillHiker · #**5931** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:01 PM**

I already emailed the Mayor about it. Happy City St. John's has been encouraging people to share the opinion, whatever it may be, with council.

Mine was:

I just wanted to say, regarding the proposed fence for the harbour...

I completely agree that we need something attractive. The temporary fence that's down there looks like poverty. However, I seriously doubt we need to restrict access to a majority of our harbourfront. Other cities manage to restrict just a tiny portion of their harbourfronts. I bet we could accomplish the same.

Thank you and I hope you have a wonderful week and weekend!

AllBlack · #**5932** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by statbass

I guess you're envisioning AllBlack and I sitting in a study with a cup of tea in our hands, smoking pipes and politely debating about the Fortis retrofit. Oh, and of course we have beards and British accents....

Cool, kind of an Oxford Union thing. Though I think their debates aren't always that civil.

I agree Signal, a pretty boring fight eh?

Townie709 · #**5933** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by AllBlack

You'll be waiting awhile. Let's hope that the Fortis retrofit goes quicker than the TD reclad. I posted in July 2011 (p. 131) that scaffolding had started on the Water St side of the TD building. So it's been 18 months and there's still a bunch of work to do (including getting the red brick off the top for Townie709...

).

Finally, someone who understands me!!

Seriously though, they don't have to do that. Just give me a call and I'll do it for free!

And signal, I love your choice of words. "it looks like poverty" I don't know why I find it so funny, but I literally laughed out loud when I read it

Townie709 · #**5934** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:20 PM**

About the fence, I hate the fence that is there now. It really does look like poverty! and I like the proposed new fence, but I don't like the idea of cutting the public off from the vast majority of the harbourfront. That's one thing I love about Halifax that St. John's really, really, — at; the harbourfront! In Halifax, there are so many nice boardwalks, markets and public parks right on the waterfront. It's a beautiful place to spend an afternoon. Here we have a slab of concrete and an aluminum railing.

Yes, Halifax has a MUCH larger harbour and doesn't have to dock the ships right in the middle of everything. They have space to zone areas for shipping and others for public use. We don't. I think we need to revisit the ideas of the finger piers again. This would allow us to move some ships to a different area and free up a bit more area for public space. (even though theres not alot of area to work with!) Or, as mentioned before, if St. John's was to amalgamate with CBS, we could get oceanex to bring their buisness out that way (or even to Argentina or somewhere down there) thus freeing up a huge section of the harbour that we could turn into green space, a park, a street market, or even just a boardwalk with some nice restaurants or something.

We don't have alot of space to work with, and a new fence is necessary, but my advice would be to wait on the fence and explore other options before we shut off the harbour to the public completely

jeddy1989 · #**5935** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:44 PM**

wanna see a real fight on SSP .. stop by the Halifax threads and post .. well anything that could remotly in their insecurity indicate you are against something there (even if it isn't really against anything at all) ahahaha

sorry .. I may be bitter ..

well it's not in our culture to be fighting! at least not against each other! (unless you're a NIMBY) hehehe

Townie709 · #**5936** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:49 PM**

Yes, We are nice to everyone here.. except NIMBYs and separatist Quebecers xD

SignalHillHiker · #**5937** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:51 PM**

I love Quebec separatists.

They're my favourite mainlanders, by far.

Townie709 · #**5938** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:54 PM**

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/12/07/nl-fortis-building-118.html

Here's the CBC article! Wow, that looks fantastic. I never thought fortis could outdo the design of Fortis Place, but I think they just did! Looks like it will be called Fortis Center! will be a great addition to our modern west end! Let's hope it gets the green light eventually!

SignalHillHiker · #**5939** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:55 PM**

What the...

How did a post from 2010 show up as brand new?

jeddy1989 · #**5940** Posted **Dec 6, 2012, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Townie709

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/12/07/nl-fortis-building-118.html

Here's the CBC article! Wow, that looks fantastic. I never thought fortis could outdo the design of Fortis Place, but I think they just did! Looks like it will be called Fortis Center! will be a great addition to our modern west end! Let's hope it gets the green light eventually!

huh? getting me all anxious and excited with a link that doesnt work!!!