The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread - Page 389

RyeJay · #**7761** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by dhottawa729

Thinking as I type, I imagine passengers arriving by cruise ship to this grand glass-fronted terminal building (actually a hockey arena in disguise), entering a lobby area with a few cafe/restaurants which overlook the ice surfaces. As passengers walk along the arena concourse to connect with harbour passage (a hockey hall of fame perhaps) they would pass various vendors. One side of the hallway would be entirely glass providing views of the uptown - on those non foggy days of course! From inside the arena during the winter months, the southern exposure of the glass-fronted building would provide plenty of feel-good sunlight on an otherwise cool fall day. From the uptown it would reflect the shimmering harbour. From the highway, passers-by would (hopefully) be intrigued with the scale and unique non-utilitarian architectural features of the building and possibly decide to enter the uptown to explore.

A beautiful and practical concept.

And I would personally enjoy the views even with the fog!

CdnEh · #**7762** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 10:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by GregHickman

There isn't anywhere near McAllister that isn't floodplain. If you move way out towards Golden Grove or southeast of Highway 1 you are then contributing to sprawl in the absolute worst of ways.

Just blast some more rock out up behind Costco!

JHikka · #**7763** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 10:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by CdnEh

Just blast some more rock out up behind Costco!

You know...that isn't actually a bad idea. There's enough room up there, and given the stagnation of East Point lately i'm sure they'd consider the application. There is a hotel on site, after all.

One downside would be the tremendous traffic problems which already exist in the area.

Helladog · #**7764** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 11:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwajo

A few facade shots I've taken recently around town. Hoping to add more in the near future

Untitled by darkharbour, on Flickr

Good pics. I also like the theme...facades.

Helladog · #**7765** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 11:41 PM**

in regards to the 4-PLEX...

A nice multipurpose facility on Bayside would be nice, somewhere near the new Tim's maybe. Or how about a facility up on the Costco hill like was mentioned along with a Crystal Palace type development.

I can hear the taxpayers now, chanting "Taj Ma-haul".

JHikka · #**7766** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 11:53 PM**

The face in that last facade picture caught me off guard for a second. Great pics.

ErickMontreal · #**7767** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 3:30 PM**

Coast Guard site development deal close, group says
Could be worth up to $100M

CBC News
Posted: Nov 23, 2012 11:21 AM AT
Last Updated: Nov 23, 2012 11:19 AM AT

The former Coast Guard site development could include retail, residential and commercial properties.The former Coast Guard site development could include retail, residential and commercial properties. (CBC)

The former Coast Guard site in Saint John is close to having a development deal in place, according to the Saint John Waterfront Development Corp.

The organization is in discussions with a developer about a project estimated to be between $80 million and $100 million, said general manager Kent MacIntyre.

"We are progressing quite nicely with a developer and we'll have something to say in the near future," he said, declining to divulge any details.

"The end is near for this project for developing that site. I can safely say that."

In July, MacIntyre expected to announce a multi-million dollar deal to develop the prime waterfront property by the end of the summer.

At that time, he suggested it might include retail, residential and commercial properties, which could bring in at least $1 million in tax revenue for the city.
Development discussed for almost a decade

The city has been talking about developing the site, now dubbed the Fundy Quay, for almost a decade.

Six years ago, the Hardman Group entered into a memorandum of understanding with the city to bring an "urban community" to the waterfront property.

The plan was to start with a hotel and condominiums, then add office and retail space.

But those plans were shelved after Irving Oil Ltd. shelved it plans to build a world headquarters at the adjacent site, Long Wharf.

Now the city is looking to develop both properties, said Mayor Mel Norton.

"It's one of the last pieces of our downtown core that are undeveloped," he said.

"It's those kinds of assets that this community has that we want to see developed and we want to see leveraged for not only for the benefit for people in the community but also the whole province really."

The city bought the old Coast Guard site from the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans for $2.8 million in January 2011.

Waterfront Saint John looked at 20 proposals for developing the site before narrowing it down to the one currently being considered.

The mayor would like to see a four-pad arena at the Long Wharf site.

Ire Narissis · #**7768** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Note I said near McAllister. That doesn't necessarily mean on the floodplain.

They ought to put it on the hill where everyone thought the Wal-Mart Supercentre was going to be.

SignalHillHiker · #**7769** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 3:36 PM**

Awesome pics! Please keep posting them.

JHikka · #**7770** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 3:40 PM**

Really tired of hearing 'could, 'soon!', and 'future plans' about the Coast Guard site. It needs to start moving soon.

DizzyEdge · #**7771** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 4:56 PM**

So who is the developer? or has it not been revealed?

JHikka · #**7772** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by GregHickman

Finished product:

As well, more going on around the corner on Adelaide Street:

Across from this building on Adelaide street the former gas station (now auto garage) is getting its' exterior updated.

philster · #**7773** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 7:26 PM**

Anyone know what they are doing in the greenspace between the Former Harbor Bridge Authority Building and the Lower West onramp? Its all staked off and there was an escavator there today.

CdnEh · #**7774** Posted **Nov 23, 2012, 11:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by philster

Anyone know what they are doing in the greenspace between the Former Harbor Bridge Authority Building and the Lower West onramp? Its all staked off and there was an escavator there today.

Interesting - I hadn't noticed, and I drive by there daily.

Gonna go down and take a peek.

Furthermore, what is the Harbour Bridge Authority Building being used for now? Is it just sitting vacant?

cdnguys · #**7775** Posted **Nov 24, 2012, 8:56 PM**

The building has been sold. It is going to be renovated in the spring with repointed brick and new windows. The upper floors will be residential with commercial on ground level. The wooden structure beside it is the same owner but it could not be saved.
Source: Dom the barber next door at Waterton's.

UptownJeff · #**7776** Posted **Nov 25, 2012, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by cdnguys

The building has been sold. It is going to be renovated in the spring with repointed brick and new windows. The upper floors will be residential with commercial on ground level. The wooden structure beside it is the same owner but it could not be saved.
Source: Dom the barber next door at Waterton's.

That is good news. I understood that the upper floors could not be used until a fire escape was installed and this was impossible with the wooden structure in place. Some very positive news lately.....Gothic Arches sold and to be reonvated and HOPEFULLY an iminent announcement on the Coastguard site.

Peter_johnns · #**7777** Posted **Nov 26, 2012, 7:30 PM**

Sorry to get off track here guys. But does anyone know of a UNB Urban Planning building in uptown SJ? I heard it is located in the Beaverbrook house

cdnguys · #**7778** Posted **Nov 26, 2012, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Peter_johnns

Sorry to get off track here guys. But does anyone know of a UNB Urban Planning building in uptown SJ? I heard it is located in the Beaverbrook house

There is the UNB Urban and Community Studies Institute in the Beaverbrook House corner of Carleton and Coburg Streets.

Peter_johnns · #**7779** Posted **Nov 27, 2012, 4:36 PM**

Thanks! Now all we need is to get all of UNBSJ relocated uptown!

JHikka · #**7780** Posted **Nov 27, 2012, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Peter_johnns

Thanks! Now all we need is to get all of UNBSJ relocated uptown!

With the amount of development and investment ongoing at the current UNBSJ location i'd find it unlikely for them to be moving in the next 50 years.