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suburbia · #**2141** Posted **Nov 8, 2012, 4:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riise

I was lucky enough to participate in the West LRT promotional photo shoot on Monday. Diligently, I completed my SPP Duty and snapped some photos from the ride.

All photos are my own.

I'm hopeful that this project will inspire improvements in these sorts of areas. They look pretty sad currently.

mersar · #**2142** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 2:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbia

I'm hopeful that this project will inspire improvements in these sorts of areas. They look pretty sad currently.

In time. fortunately there is a DP going through the approvals process for a roughly 10 storey residential complex on the vacant site in the photo.

Tropics · #**2143** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 4:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by danofkent

Subsequently, Walmart has been refurbished and there is a strong rumour that they extended their lease through to about 2050.

I find it hard to fathom they would sign that long of a lease on land that has such potential for redevelopment. I am 36 years old and would likely be dead before that lease would expire, I would have to imagine most of the people who post on this forum would be dead before that place could be redeveloped if they signed a lease to 2050.

That seems like an absurd time, working backwards that is like a lease exipring today that was signed in 1974. 38 years from now Westbrook is going to be 5 minutes from downtown in a city of 2-3 million people, you do not lock up that kind of real estate for that long.

MalcolmTucker · #**2144** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 7:04 AM**

Unless something has changed, I believe one could say "Mexican millionaires lock up realestate for that long".

Bigtime · #**2145** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tropics

I find it hard to fathom they would sign that long of a lease on land that has such potential for redevelopment. I am 36 years old and would likely be dead before that lease would expire, I would have to imagine most of the people who post on this forum would be dead before that place could be redeveloped if they signed a lease to 2050.

Speak for yourself, I plan to be a nice young 69 (giggity) in 2050.

Cage · #**2146** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 9:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by MMMBeer

Calgary transit website and west LRT webiste is confirming Dec. 10 is opening day.

Calgary transit site also has final new bus routes and detailed route maps.

When the WLRT opens, will transportation department adjust Bow Trail light timing such that Bow Trail will not be the free flow travel corridor it currently is. Example: Turn Bow Trail into MacLeod Trail. It would be nice if Sarceee/Bow interchange could be adjusted so that Sarcee has 2 minute free flow traffic rather than Bow. This would alleviate a lot of the traffic on Bow, provide more convenient North/South corridor, and incentive West Calgary to downtown commuters to use the new line.

lubicon · #**2147** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

When the WLRT opens, will transportation department adjust Bow Trail light timing such that Bow Trail will not be the free flow travel corridor it currently is. Example: Turn Bow Trail into MacLeod Trail. It would be nice if Sarceee/Bow interchange could be adjusted so that Sarcee has 2 minute free flow traffic rather than Bow. This would alleviate a lot of the traffic on Bow, provide more convenient North/South corridor, and incentive West Calgary to downtown commuters to use the new line.

I'm assuming you mean Bow Trail / Sarcee Trail intersection (rather than interchange). If so that is an interesting concept. Currently Sarcee NB is an absolute parking lot in the afternoon rush with traffic backed up to at least 17 Ave most of the time. It takes 20 minutes (6-8 light cycles) or so to get through this stretch. This road is now the bane of my existence as I have to drive it every day now and would be all for anything that might help. Of course the SW Ring Road would be the best solution..................

MalcolmTucker · #**2148** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 10:48 PM**

They were going to build an interchange at Bow and Sarcee - Craig Burrows argued against simultaneous construction at both 17th and Bow and so it wasn't built.

kw5150 · #**2149** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 10:57 PM**

Crap, and years later, look where we are at now. Most of these horrible traffic snarls are at intersections that should have been constructed as interchanges YEARS ago. I can think of 6 or 7 easy ones right now that would help right away. Time to get back to finishing these inner city snarls.

16th ave and 12th st NE
32th ave and 12th st NE
Sarcee Bow Trail
24th ave nw and crowchild.
5th and crowchild
Kensington road and crowchild.
Hwy 8 and sarcee
Ogden and Barlow/50th ave area.....near that truck stop.

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

They were going to build an interchange at Bow and Sarcee - Craig Burrows argued against simultaneous construction at both 17th and Bow and so it wasn't built.

You Need A Thneed · #**2150** Posted **Nov 9, 2012, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

16th ave and 12th st NE
32th ave and 12th st NE
Sarcee Bow Trail
24th ave nw and crowchild.
5th and crowchild
Kensington road and crowchild.
Hwy 8 and sarcee
Ogden and Barlow/50th ave area.....near that truck stop.

If you mean 16th Ave/ 19th Street, then yes, it needs to be done, but likely is useless until 16th/deerfoot intercahnge is also addressed.

32nd ave/12th Street will never be done. McKnight/12th Street will however.

Hwy 8/Sarcee is part of the SW ring road/whenever that happens.

Barlow/50th Ave will never happen.

suburbia · #**2151** Posted **Nov 11, 2012, 1:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

32nd ave/12th Street will never be done. McKnight/12th Street will however.

What is the timeline for McKnight/12th? I believe it is a little more complex in some ways, in that a new intersection / connection may be required a pinch East from there for access from the areas immediately south of McKnight (that's what I recall from prior drawings).

jsbertram · #**2152** Posted **Nov 11, 2012, 1:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tropics

I find it hard to fathom they would sign that long of a lease on land that has such potential for redevelopment. I am 36 years old and would likely be dead before that lease would expire, I would have to imagine most of the people who post on this forum would be dead before that place could be redeveloped if they signed a lease to 2050.

That seems like an absurd time, working backwards that is like a lease exipring today that was signed in 1974. 38 years from now Westbrook is going to be 5 minutes from downtown in a city of 2-3 million people, you do not lock up that kind of real estate for that long.

Leases have buy-out clauses so either party can pay to break the lease after the lease has been in effect for a certain minimum period.

This just happened in Vancouver. Eatons built their new store at Pacific Centre in the 1970's with a 99 year lease. A few decades later, Eatons goes bust and Sears buys the assets, and as successor they continue with the 'eatons' 99 year lease.

Cadillac Fairview figures out they can make more money with a higher-class tenant, so Sears is paid $125 Million to break the lease. Sears moves out, Cadillac Fairview will renovate the building, and Nordstrom will move in - paying much higher $ psf on a new lease.

Since Nordstrom doesn't need all 7 floors of the building, the basement will become an extension of the mall (more tenants at a higher $ psf), and the top 3 floors will become office space (also at a higher $ psf).

93JC · #**2153** Posted **Nov 11, 2012, 2:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by kw5150

I don't get why 9th cant be a two way with a lane reversal.....especially if they are redoing crowchild.

What's your plan for redoing 14th St?

#**2154** Posted **Nov 11, 2012, 3:35 AM**

Regarding Deerfoot/16 Ave N... it seems to me there's room for at tight cloverstack, like the ultimate plan for Shag and Stoney. Flyovers over the middle instead of looping around like at 16th and Stoney in the east. They'd have to actually build piers, instead of using fill which seems to be their new MO at major junctions.

srperrycgy · #**2155** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 12:12 AM**

Back on topic....

A lot of West LRT finishing touch work going on now. Observed trees being planted at 45th Street and more sidewalk work going on at 37th St. However, the best news of the day is that a concrete median barrier was being poured on Bow Trail west of 33rd St. Finally, the moronic jaywalkers will have to use the overpass.

bakersdozen · #**2156** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 2:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by srperrycgy

Back on topic....

A lot of West LRT finishing touch work going on now. Observed trees being planted at 45th Street and more sidewalk work going on at 37th St. However, the best news of the day is that a concrete median barrier was being poured on Bow Trail west of 33rd St. Finally, the moronic jaywalkers will have to use the overpass.

People were jaywalking across crowchild and the tracks? Awesome.

srperrycgy · #**2157** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 2:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by bakersdozen

People were jaywalking across crowchild and the tracks? Awesome.

Not there. Bow Trail in front of Westbrook.

kw5150 · #**2158** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 5:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by 93JC

What's your plan for redoing 14th St?

kw5150 · #**2159** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 5:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

If you mean 16th Ave/ 19th Street, then yes, it needs to be done, but likely is useless until 16th/deerfoot intercahnge is also addressed.

32nd ave/12th Street will never be done. McKnight/12th Street will however.

Hwy 8/Sarcee is part of the SW ring road/whenever that happens.

Barlow/50th Ave will never happen.

Vascilli · #**2160** Posted **Nov 18, 2012, 5:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by srperrycgy

Back on topic....

A lot of West LRT finishing touch work going on now. Observed trees being planted at 45th Street and more sidewalk work going on at 37th St. However, the best news of the day is that a concrete median barrier was being poured on Bow Trail west of 33rd St. Finally, the moronic jaywalkers will have to use the overpass.

They could do one better and use that concrete to pour some stairs for the overpass so it doesn't take longer to get up and down from it than walk across.