Winnipeg Construction

[Mininari]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

...No wonder we are dead last in the West, in terms of standard of living.

Are you sure about that? I moved here from Vancouver 6 years ago, and while, yes I could boast all about the 'better' standard of living on the West Coast, numerous rec opportunities, etc. etc. I have to say the standard of living here with respect to land and housing costs doesn't compare! My wife and I are actually looking at getting an acre (or two) out by Steinbach, and apparently you can throw in a 4-5 BR 2500sq/ft house (with finished basement) for around $350K. Meanwhile, I speak with my friends back home who are struggling to pay their massive mortgages on townhouses, or condos, while trying to raise their first child, find daycare (which apparently is double the cost that it is here), AND do it all on the same income. If they do manage to qualify to buy a single family house, they're going to be living somewhere out in the Valley, facing long commutes (equating to less time with family). I guess if you're talking about a family with two six-figure incomes in Calgary, then, yes, nothing is going to compare to that here in Winnipeg. As for rec opportunities, I think some of the best parts of Winnipeg are within a 2-hour drive. Access to forests, lakes, parks, cottages, swimming, fishing, hiking, hunting, snowmobiling, x-country skiiing, beaches, etc. all with the added bonus of not being gawdy, overpriced, and overcrowded, like Banff and Canmore seem to be becoming. I dunno, I think Winnipeg and its surrounding area are not given as much of a liveable credit as it should be. Big incomes and access to expensive toys is not all there is to life.

But before we get into an off-topic discussion in the 'construction thread,' perhaps we should move this discussion either to a new thread, or to 'Western Espresso'

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Are you sure about that? I moved here from Vancouver 6 years ago, and while, yes I could boast all about the 'better' standard of living on the West Coast, numerous rec opportunities, etc. etc. I have to say the standard of living here with respect to land and housing costs doesn't compare! My wife and I are actually looking at getting an acre (or two) out by Steinbach, and apparently you can throw in a 4-5 BR 2500sq/ft house (with finished basement) for around $350K. Meanwhile, I speak with my friends back home who are struggling to pay their massive mortgages on townhouses, or condos, while trying to raise their first child, find daycare (which apparently is double the cost that it is here), AND do it all on the same income. If they do manage to qualify to buy a single family house, they're going to be living somewhere out in the Valley, facing long commutes (equating to less time with family). I guess if you're talking about a family with two six-figure incomes in Calgary, then, yes, nothing is going to compare to that here in Winnipeg. As for rec opportunities, I think some of the best parts of Winnipeg are within a 2-hour drive. Access to forests, lakes, parks, cottages, swimming, fishing, hiking, hunting, snowmobiling, x-country skiiing, beaches, etc. all with the added bonus of not being gawdy, and overcrowded, like Banff and Canmore seem to be becoming. I dunno, I think Winnipeg and its surrounding area are not given as much of a liveable credit as it should be. Big incomes and access to expensive toys is not all there is to life.

But before we get into an off-topic discussion in the 'construction thread,' perhaps we should move this discussion either to a new thread, or to 'Western Espresso'

For those interested in comparing the costs of owning in various parts of the country, check out the RBC affordability index (released quarterly). And yes Vancouver is far and away the most expensive place to own a home.

http://www.rbc.com/newsroom/pdf/HA-0827-2012.pdf

Here's a sample of some of the data from the report. Rather than comparing pure housing costs, it takes the percentage of a median household income that would go towards housing costs (mortgage, taxes, utilities) of the average home sold in the quarter.

Detached Bungalow:
Vancouver: 91%
BC: 69.7%
Toronto: 54.5%
Calgary: 36.7%
MB: 37.8%

2-Story:
Vancouver: 93.8%
BC: 74.2%
Toronto: 63.9%
Calgary 37.2%
MB: 39.6%

I think the rule of thumb for lenders is 33% of income should go towards housing costs. So baisically a house in Vancouver, or even BC in general, is well out of the reach of affordability for the average family.


Keeping the focus on Winnipeg construction, the affordability of housing in MB. It's about on par with the rest of Western Canada. A little better than SK, a little worse than AB.

[RHINO]

Just trying to get this back on track here:


Is this still getting built? It’s a very kick — idea, and sorry but surprising to be built in Winnipeg and not T.O. or Vancouver. No offence Peg, sorry.

This has been dubbed the "Pencil Tower" by roccerfeller of SSC
Is it still going ahead too?


I dont know what is happening with this project but it looks good.
Centre Point

What happen with the Winnipeg Convention expantion?


And finally, a really cool shot of Down Town Winnipeg with her new jewl.
Thank you to the member of SSP that captured it, I got it from google and it didnt say who you were.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by RHINO

Just trying to get this back on track here:


Is this still getting built? It’s a very kick — idea, and sorry but surprising to be built in Winnipeg and not T.O. or Vancouver. No offence Peg, sorry.

This has been dubbed the "Pencil Tower" by roccerfeller of SSC
Is it still going ahead too?


I dont know what is happening with this project but it looks good.
Centre Point

What happen with the Winnipeg Convention expantion?


And finally, a really cool shot of Down Town Winnipeg with her new jewl.
Thank you to the member of SSP that captured it, I got it from google and it didnt say who you were.

First project as far as i know is still tentatively a go ahead. i assume its depending on pre-sales.

Realtor selling them:
http://jfratthe.com/2012/08/62m-condos-62-macdonald-avenue/

The 3rd one, centrepoint is a go ahead and is under construction with an added condo tower component. Not familiar with the second one. I think we're still awaiting an official unveiling of the convention centre expansion.

[1ajs]

2nd one is a pie in the sky someones trying to get going see what happens with it

[Only The Lonely..]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

2nd one is a pie in the sky someones trying to get going see what happens with it

Pie in the sky? Are you sure you don't mean this..

[1ajs]

thats still pushing forward last i herd

[Biff]

The Flying Saucer will go ahead. I think he means the second one - Pencil Tower has little chance of being built.

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Are you sure about that? I moved here from Vancouver 6 years ago, and while, yes I could boast all about the 'better' standard of living on the West Coast, numerous rec opportunities, etc. etc. I have to say the standard of living here with respect to land and housing costs doesn't compare! My wife and I are actually looking at getting an acre (or two) out by Steinbach, and apparently you can throw in a 4-5 BR 2500sq/ft house (with finished basement) for around $350K. Meanwhile, I speak with my friends back home who are struggling to pay their massive mortgages on townhouses, or condos, while trying to raise their first child, find daycare (which apparently is double the cost that it is here), AND do it all on the same income. If they do manage to qualify to buy a single family house, they're going to be living somewhere out in the Valley, facing long commutes (equating to less time with family). I guess if you're talking about a family with two six-figure incomes in Calgary, then, yes, nothing is going to compare to that here in Winnipeg. As for rec opportunities, I think some of the best parts of Winnipeg are within a 2-hour drive. Access to forests, lakes, parks, cottages, swimming, fishing, hiking, hunting, snowmobiling, x-country skiiing, beaches, etc. all with the added bonus of not being gawdy, overpriced, and overcrowded, like Banff and Canmore seem to be becoming. I dunno, I think Winnipeg and its surrounding area are not given as much of a liveable credit as it should be. Big incomes and access to expensive toys is not all there is to life.

But before we get into an off-topic discussion in the 'construction thread,' perhaps we should move this discussion either to a new thread, or to 'Western Espresso'

Remember Mininari, some on this forum equate paying a couple thousand extra in taxes a year as "poor standard of living", regardless of the ridiculous costs of living, 1 hour plus commutes, etc. found elsewhere.

[armorand93]

Are we STILL talking about other cities?! Jesus Christ guys...

[GORDBO]

Can someone please remind me, What Missisauga's city status has to do with Winnipeg contruction!

If it was it's own city, how come I can't find a single thread with it's name in either the Toronto or Ontario
thread listing?

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by cheswick

For those interested in comparing the costs of owning in various parts of the country, check out the RBC affordability index (released quarterly). And yes Vancouver is far and away the most expensive place to own a home.

http://www.rbc.com/newsroom/pdf/HA-0827-2012.pdf

Here's a sample of some of the data from the report. Rather than comparing pure housing costs, it takes the percentage of a median household income that would go towards housing costs (mortgage, taxes, utilities) of the average home sold in the quarter.

Detached Bungalow:
Vancouver: 91%
BC: 69.7%
Toronto: 54.5%
Calgary: 36.7%
MB: 37.8%

2-Story:
Vancouver: 93.8%
BC: 74.2%
Toronto: 63.9%
Calgary 37.2%
MB: 39.6%

I think the rule of thumb for lenders is 33% of income should go towards housing costs. So baisically a house in Vancouver, or even BC in general, is well out of the reach of affordability for the average family.


Keeping the focus on Winnipeg construction, the affordability of housing in MB. It's about on par with the rest of Western Canada. A little better than SK, a little worse than AB.

Really interesting stuff there, and more in that link, thanks for sharing this cheswick

Originally Posted by RHINO

Just trying to get this back on track here:
Is this still getting built? It’s a very kick — idea, and sorry but surprising to be built in Winnipeg and not T.O. or Vancouver. No offence Peg, sorry.

This has been dubbed the "Pencil Tower" by roccerfeller of SSC
Is it still going ahead too?

I dont know what is happening with this project but it looks good.
Centre Point

What happen with the Winnipeg Convention expantion?


And finally, a really cool shot of Down Town Winnipeg with her new jewl.
Thank you to the member of SSP that captured it, I got it from google and it didnt say who you were.

Whoa, hey RHINO! I've never seen you post on SSP before! Welcome!

For the record, I just called it the pencil tower because it was penned that on the David Penner Architects website.

cheswick pretty much covered it all; first one is still a "go" as far as we know. Again, likely dependent one pre-sales

second is very unlikely to go through primarily due to zoning laws (iirc) though I think Biff or TV suggested there is a slim chance it could still go through i.e. they said it was not dead per se..though we should consider it so

third is pretty much U/C right now, and as cheswick stated, along with an additional condo tower

and yes that fourth one is a cool shot...I think it was vid who coloured the Artis building in

There's some pretty sweet Peg shots floating around...chrisallard had some really badass ones, really cool nighttime stuff..you should do a forum search for those

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

Pie in the sky? Are you sure you don't mean this.

[armorand93]

Mikhail Gorbachev is our leader for today, all bow down to the General Secretary!!!

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[Only The Lonely..]

He'll fit right in our bankrupt socialist state.

[armorand93]

Seriously lol, he's editing the papers, he's talking to the kids, he's wandering around Winnipeg giving orders. Plus Winnipeg could use some more subsidized housing, better public transit and Nu, Pogodi!

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[dpenner]

ughh don't even get me started on We day, an event that has the potential to get a generation politically engaged (which is desperately needed) but instead uses pop stars and useless jibber jabber about superficial solutions to global issues to get teenagers riled up like a bunch of kindergarteners on coke and fuzzy peaches......


coca cola.....not tony montoya coke ....


also nice vid amorand LOL great little piece of late soviet propaganda sooooo funny

[armorand93]

Who doesn't love russian Tom and Jerry! Especially when the wolf smokes like, 60 cigarettes to smoke out the hare lmfao.

Agreed on WeDay, the entire events retarded. Sad that Gorbachev is forced to listen to these kids all of tonight...

[p.horosh]

Rockwall @ Disraeli "Fwy" Waterfront North:
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More Rockwall w/ pedestrian interface U/C:
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H20 Condo's Phase 1, South Elevation:
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H20 Condo's Phase 1, North West Corner & parking lot:
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H20 Condo's Phase 1, West Elevation:

IMG_3922 by wpg.inv, on Flickr
Note:H20 Phase 2 foundation has been poured to the south of Phase 1, but vertical development is currently on hold until further sales and completion of Phase 1.
Sunstone Development's Boutique Hotel & Harbour master building Re-development:
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Bird's Eye of Boutique Hotel on Waterfront:
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Sky Waterfront, Phase 2 (just off waterfront, behind phase 1):
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More Sky Phase 2:
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The District Condo's on James Avenue, just off of Waterfront:
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Bird's Eye of District:

IMG_3946 by wpg.inv, on Flickr
James Avenue Block- Main Level retail/commercial, Upper Floors= residential:

IMG_3942 by wpg.inv, on Flickr

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NOTE: This same mix use style of development will also be duplicated across the James Ave alley on Market Ave.
Market Avenue "section" shown here (unfortunately photo does not show whole block slated for redevelopment):
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East end of Market Ave block w/ current district sales office. (note the ground level patios to the right:

IMG_3953 by wpg.inv, on Flickr
Foreground Left= Market Ave patios, background= James Ave alley way:

IMG_3950 by wpg.inv, on Flickr
Not Just Private Sector Investment- Market Ave street scape redevelopment.
Centre Venture also has lighting plans for this "cultural district" jury is still out on the renderings...
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Manitoba Sports Federation:
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Union Bank Tower- on the west side of Main St, but will be an amazing addition to the Exchange as a whole- future home to 100 student residences for the RRC Downtown Campus:
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BONUS:
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NOT SHOWN:
1. Lombard office redevelopment.
2. Phase 2 YouCube piles have been pounded & excavation U/C.
3. Future site of 62M (renderings:5468796.ca)
4. Blue Moon Revolution new showroom.
5. Boon Burger East Exchange location.
6. Organic paper supply store.
7. New pizza joint next to Boon Burger.
8. Martha Street studio interior renovation.
9. Future site of James Ave development @ Lily St.
& I'm sure there's more.

It's great to see development moving north down waterfront and west from waterfront. IMHO.
Lot's happening...

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by p.horosh

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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[1ajs]