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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:15 PM
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very nice!

doesnt look 24 storeys....must have a big podium
That was my initial thought too. But there are 17 floors on top of the podium. That leaves 7 floors for Podium. If that is the case, at least that leaves a lot for mixed use. I like the orientation on the lot. Looks as if it will be butted up against the sidewalk! Oops sorry HotWired. You can turn your head on that statement.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:23 PM
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nope...but it is a nice project....hardly worthy of a dancing banana though.
im sensing he either got a look at the mpi lot proposal or the wcc proposal... or got awarded as the architects who are designing the wag expansion
     
     
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according to the Journal of Commerce, the Convention Centre expansion is 3 storeys plus a 3 storey hotel on top with 300 rooms. construction to start early 2013

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...e41a7c&projectid=9090646&region=prairies

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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:34 PM
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according to the Journal of Commerce, the Convention Centre expansion is 3 storeys plus a 3 storey hotel on top with 300 rooms. construction to start early 2013

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...e41a7c&projectid=9090646&region=prairies

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Hmmm. I wasn't expecting that either. However there will be a lot of spin off development from this one, so I am not complaining. Also it removes one of the largest of Winnipeg's downtown parking lots and replaces it with something that will bring hundreds of thousands to our city over the next few decades. With that it is better than what one tower would bring.

Remember, a city such as Ottawa with multiple low-mid rise is much more attractive than one with empty parking lots. And Winnipeg is slowly making its way towards that goal.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:39 PM
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Hmmm. I wasn't expecting that either. However there will be a lot of spin off development from this one, so I am not complaining. Also it removes one of the largest of Winnipeg's downtown parking lots and replaces it with something that will bring hundreds of thousands to our city over the next few decades. With that it is better than what one tower would bring.

Remember, a city such as Ottawa with multiple low-mid rise is much more attractive than one with empty parking lots. And Winnipeg is slowly making its way towards that goal.
i'm terrified of what the ground floor is going to look like. two blocks of blank walls with no sidewalk interaction along Carlton and Edmonton would be awful.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:43 PM
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according to the Journal of Commerce, the Convention Centre expansion is 3 storeys plus a 3 storey hotel on top with 300 rooms. construction to start early 2013
Just for context, the Fairmont has 340 rooms and stands 20 storeys tall. That will have to be one sprawling hotel building with 100 suites per floor!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 5:58 PM
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Just for context, the Fairmont has 340 rooms and stands 20 storeys tall. That will have to be one sprawling hotel building with 100 suites per floor!
that sites not always hundred percent accurate 300 million are u kiddin me last i check it was supposed be built for 147 million... and 300 rooms 3 floors????????? is pking lot space the size of superstore or are the rooms gonna be 200 sq ft

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even if the hotel accounts for the addition 130 million no way that its 3 storys lol r u kidding me 130 million dollar hotel thats 3 floors... 300 rooms lol
     
     
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according to the Journal of Commerce, the Convention Centre expansion is 3 storeys plus a 3 storey hotel on top with 300 rooms. construction to start early 2013

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...e41a7c&projectid=9090646&region=prairies

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Hmm....3 storey's and 300 rooms? That doesn't make much sense to me. Nor does it mesh with the Convention Centre expansion initial plans that showed off the hotel on top.

Still, I am just happy that one of the largest lots in downtown Winnipeg is being replaced with something(s) (as the 300$MM tag almost certainly isn't exclusively for the hotel + expansion + underground parking)

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Just for context, the Fairmont has 340 rooms and stands 20 storeys tall. That will have to be one sprawling hotel building with 100 suites per floor!
Yeah...that's what I'm thinking...100 suites/floor just, simply, does not make sense...90 000 sq feet? I suppose one never knows. 5 acres of planned development space could certainly accommodate a lot of development and it depends how its spread out


Unless perhaps it was a typo of some sort...13 floors perhaps?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 8:00 PM
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For me 90 000 sq ft can certainly make sense with a 3 storey hotel, but would it have 300 rooms?

Here's a 90 000 sq ft house lol ... $100MM price tag (finished)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704853404575323051671468756.html#slide/1
     
     
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Could be one of those Japanese honeycomb hotels!

http://www.weirdasianews.com/2009/07/23/claustrophobic-hotels/
     
     
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We need not look further than our own backyard to see a nice 90 000 sq ft building, and an idea of what type of space it could fill and look like

317 Donald St



edit: this is more than 3 stories however, I presume
     
     
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For me 90 000 sq ft can certainly make sense with a 3 storey hotel, but would it have 300 rooms?

Here's a 90 000 sq ft house lol ... $100MM price tag (finished)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704853404575323051671468756.html#slide/1
it just doesnt add up journalofcommerce has been wrong plenty times before, im not going to comment on this until i see the rendering. To me if a hotel is built especially in the core area of the city it has to be a high rise.. Nobody wants to stay at hotel in the core and have to look outside thier window and see drunks running bout.. car whistling by... downtown hotels should always be high rises. Especially with a project of this magnitude..
     
     
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hasnt truviking already seen the winnipeg proposal?

so cant he confirm or deny whether this includes a highrise or not?
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 8:22 PM
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im not going to comment on this until i see the rendering.
yeah, I agree we should certainly wait and see a rendering; JOBC could be wrong, there could be some typos, missing details/infos, something might not be finalized, the $300MM price-tag is an estimation of the development; we still do not have official details yet some of the proposals others have seen, have said it has the potential to look amazing

I like how the proposed start date is Jan 2013...still expecting the (potentially) same number of cranes to go up downtown, Biff?
     
     
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I'm guessing the hotel is 6 storeys... The wording is kind of confusing. It mentions there is access from the ground floor... Lobby on the first floor, two floors of rooms on the same "level" as the convention centre and then 3 above.

Who knows though.
     
     
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I'm guessing the hotel is 6 storeys... The wording is kind of confusing. It mentions there is access from the ground floor... Lobby on the first floor, two floors of rooms on the same "level" as the convention centre and then 3 above.
still doesnt explain how u fit 300 rooms on 3 floors
     
     
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i've seen the WCC proposal, but not the hotel....i can confirm that the hotel will not be 3 stories....between 15 and 20 would be my guess.

the inuit gallery selection wont be made for a few more weeks....the designer will be a foreigner...whoever wins will just be local support....would still be an awesome project to be a part of.

i haven't seen anything regarding the MPI lots...i am as anxious as everyone!

That building on donald is one of the worst new buildings in downtown winnipeg....
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2012, 9:19 PM
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i've seen the WCC proposal, but not the hotel....i can confirm that the hotel will not be 3 stories....between 15 and 20 would be my guess.

the inuit gallery selection wont be made for a few more weeks....the designer will be a foreigner...whoever wins will just be local support....would still be an awesome project to be a part of.

i haven't seen anything regarding the MPI lots...i am as anxious as everyone!

That building on donald is one of the worst new buildings in downtown winnipeg....

so what was you all bannanas bout

is there something on the horizon that we dont know about yet... perhaps a sick new high rise in the exchange?
     
     
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Since when does the Exchange need highrises?
     
     
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