YEG - Edmonton Int Airport

[LO 044]

Originally Posted by thegx

Four are in Mexico. Still, 23 to 12.

Offered by WestJet but not Air Canada: Victoria, Kelowna, Abbotsford, Comox, Hamilton, Halifax, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Palm Springs, Orlando, Maui, Cancun, Peurto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas.

Offered by Air Canada but not WestJet: London-Heathrow

Just my opinion but i believe Las Vegas, Phoenix, Palm Springs, Orlando, Maui, Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan and Cabo San Lucas are basically sun destinations. They are Edmontonians flying south to get away from here which says it all. For the most part, no one from these cities comes to Edmonton for business or pleasure and no one uses these airports for connections to other places.

Perhaps Phoenix could be considered an airport to transfer to other flights but i don't think WestJet codeshares with anyone in and out of Phoenix.

I would really like WestJet to compete on flights to typical business airports in the US such as Chicago or Seattle. If they start a flight to Atlanta, that's great as well. Why they don't? Not sure but i would rather fly a WS 737 than an AS Q400 to Seattle. This is basically the same point i preach over and over. Does WS offer more seats? Yes. More destinations? Yes. More destinations to business or well connected US cities? No. WS has quantity destinations but not quality.

[dansk]

You're correct that most of those would be considered sun destinations.

PHX is a AA codeshare with WS, not sure how that much that changes things for WS viewing that market as a primary Sun Destination. It is much like when AC flew to LAS, and codeshared that route with UAL...it didn't change the fact that that was mainly a sun destination...not a business route.

Honestly I think our next route will be to the Eastern Seaboard in the US, which will be a good business route. From a business stand point, not having the Mexico City route really puts makes travel for those in the Oil industry to South America ridiculously long and unfriendly. With all the business between this region and South America it would be nice to get a route restarted to Mexico City or at least Miami.

[Coldrsx]

^doesnt Houston or Denver work well for those though?

[7e7]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^doesnt Houston or Denver work well for those though?

Exactly, and you buy tickets for these and other UA flights through AC.

I agree that Westjet offers quantity over quality.

[dansk]

Flights from DEN are minimal, they are mainly a regional hub for UAL ( a huge one) their main international flights are Mexico City (just starting), Toyko (just starting), FRA and LHR.

IAH is good for Mexico and Central America, but once you try to get to some of the major business ports in South America you're looking at flights at 22hrs+. YYZ or MIA are usually the best connections.

I'm not advocating for non-stop flights to South America, but better connections via MEX or MIA would be nice. Right now we fly mainly through YYZ.

[Coldrsx]

1 week until a 773-ER, can't wait.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

1 week until a 773-ER, can't wait.

So where you off to?? and via ??

[thegx]

Originally Posted by 7e7

I agree that Westjet offers quantity over quality.

How about within Canada though? How can WestJet operate 4 737s to Kelowna a day and 3 to Victoria while Air Canada operates none? Not even 1 Jazz flight/day.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

So where you off to?? and via ??

Suzuka F1 in Japan via Van-Tok.

[7e7]

Originally Posted by thegx

How about within Canada though? How can WestJet operate 4 737s to Kelowna a day and 3 to Victoria while Air Canada operates none? Not even 1 Jazz flight/day.

Each carrier approaches how it serves markets differently, one commonality is they do both prefer funneling through Hubs, Westjet to a lesser extent but they do hub (and despite the term "focus city" that is sometimes used that usually used to placate non-hub cities).

Personally I prefer the product and service offered by AC an *A carriers, I find it far superior and meets my needs in terms of destinations and frequencies for the most part, and Westjet does not have a value proposition to ke up or the short comings.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Suzuka F1 in Japan via Van-Tok.

Life is a bitch isn't it

[hilman]

WestJet teams up with British Airways
U.K. carrier to sell seats on WestJet flights

BY AMANDA STEPHENSON, CALGARY HERALD SEPTEMBER 25, 2012

The deal will allow the U.K. carrier to sell seats on WestJet flights, making it easier for British Airways passengers to use the Calgary-based airline for their regional connections in Canada.

"We're excited because British Airways is such an iconic image in the airline world," said WestJet spokesperson Robert Palmer. "This one, obviously, is very, very big for us in terms of its prestige."

WestJet has had an interline agreement with British Airways for the past two years, giving the two carriers the ability to co-ordinate on things like baggage handling and ticketing. Code sharing goes a step farther, allowing British Airways to use its own "BA" code on WestJet flights connecting from Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto to Ottawa, Edmonton, and Victoria.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/WestJet+teams+with+British+Airways/7295357/story.html

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

Life is a bitch isn't it

Sometimes you just gotta say 'let's do it' and go. Screw reality.

[7e7]

Originally Posted by hilman

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/WestJet+teams+with+British+Airways/7295357/story.html

Doesn't add any flights to YEG, and requires connection in YVR to get on BA plane (code share not n YYC-YEG)

I will continue to support AC nonstop to LHR, although this new agreement could impact that route as some people may choose BA instead of AC which could put pressure on the non-stop to LHR.

[alexisantonakis]

Originally Posted by 7e7

Well if you are referring to the 2 aircraft acquired from Hawaiian they actually do have a business class, just not the executive first lie flat seats that are in he rest of the wde body fleet. Out west in the winter it is old as business for tips to Hawaii, and out east in the summer it is economy plus for trips to Europe.

These will likely be the first ones in the new carrier, with the other 767s transferring as 787s are acquired.

Well yes I was thinking of those, but also the 7 or so that AC have that are all one class.

And I'm sure I read on an AC press release that they would be starting off their low budget carrier using A319's and adding in 767's as they are replaced by the 787's, which I believe is now slated for later 2013, early 2014.

[LO 044]

I'm really surprised that Condor can't make a YEG-FRA route work here. I guess they can make it work in Halifax though.

http://airlineroute.net/2012/09/27/de-s13update1/

Frankfurt – Halifax Service increases from 3 weekly to 4 weekly
DE6062 FRA1515 – 1735YHZ 767 6
DE2062 FRA1530 – 1750YHZ 767 2
DE4062 FRA1540 – 1800YHZ 767 4
DE3062 FRA1745 – 2005YHZ 767 3

DE6063 YHZ1935 – 0705+1FRA 767 6
DE4063 YHZ2000 – 0720+1FRA 767 4
DE2063 YHZ2000 – 0730+1FRA 767 2
DE3063 YHZ2345 – 1115+1FRA 767 3

[dansk]

Here's a real question (not trying to be sarcastic, honest question)... I wonder if YEG approached Condor in the last 6 months?

[Rogie]

Has Westjet moved its operations to the newly-opened domestic terminal area?

I'm looking on the YEG livecam, and there's a line of WS planes lined up. Unfortunately, I can't see the old north terminal to compare.

[dancinb]

Yes they have. I flew to Saskatoon on Westjet from gate 66 last week but arrived back at gate 16 (or 14?). There were no planes at the old end (gates 8-12) when I arrived. I also noticed a Westjet flight scheduled from gate 74, which I think is the last gate in the new domestic terminal.

Air canada seems to have the same gates they did before.

It was my first time in the new portion and I think the airport has a great feel to it. I got my coffee from Sorrentino's cafe which was a nice change from Starbucks.

[LO 044]

I am still curious as to what will be done with the old (WestJet) departure area. Does anyone in the know out there have any info?