Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals - Page 260

yaletown_fella · #**5181** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Out of the current crop of proposals, I think we'll get a few gems.

The city can request the developer to alter the design but the developers in TO are super stubborn when it comes to keeping the lowest budget possible. They'll just use wavy balconies as an excuse for design.

Ramako · #**5182** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 4:57 PM**

Good thing King Blue has no chance of getting built. Entertainment District condo sales have dried up.

caltrane74 · #**5183** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 5:07 PM**

They haven't even opened up their sales office.

rbt · #**5184** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

Good thing King Blue has no chance of getting built. Entertainment District condo sales have dried up.

Unfortunately none of these plans are going to go away; just deferred for a couple of years.

If anything, downward price pressure will cause developers to cut corners.

Chadillaccc · #**5185** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 8:19 PM**

Ugh

jetsbackincanada · #**5186** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

Good thing King Blue has no chance of getting built. Entertainment District condo sales have dried up.

I am just amazed some times at the comments people make!!!

Do you think, that in ten years architecture will go back to where it was 100 years ago, or something?????

It will ONLY GET WORSE, cheaper, less interesting, and more dissapointing!!

Hope that we get everything, we can during this cycle cause next time it will be worse............ ( Although I will say, i prefer the glass and spandrel, over slabs of concrete, and brutalist monsters of the 60s!!!!!!)

DrNest · #**5187** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 9:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by rbt

If anything, downward price pressure will cause developers to cut corners.

That is my concern too. I don't dislike the proposal. It's nothing special, or particularly different to what is lining the Gardiner, but just adds more density to Toronto.

Ramako · #**5188** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by jetsbackincanada

I am just amazed some times at the comments people make!!!

Do you think, that in ten years architecture will go back to where it was 100 years ago, or something?????

It will ONLY GET WORSE, cheaper, less interesting, and more dissapointing!!

Hope that we get everything, we can during this cycle cause next time it will be worse............ ( Although I will say, i prefer the glass and spandrel, over slabs of concrete, and brutalist monsters of the 60s!!!!!!)

I disagree with the oversimplified notion that architecture gets worse over time. Architecture is a function of time, place and circumstance. Some eras and some styles are better than others. King Blue is pretty mediocre architecture within its own era, and I wouldn't be afraid to roll the dice on another design for that lot in another five or ten years.

Martin Mtl · #**5189** Posted **Aug 13, 2012, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by jetsbackincanada

I am just amazed some times at the comments people make!!!

Do you think, that in ten years architecture will go back to where it was 100 years ago, or something?????

It will ONLY GET WORSE, cheaper, less interesting, and more dissapointing!!

Hope that we get everything, we can during this cycle cause next time it will be worse............ ( Although I will say, i prefer the glass and spandrel, over slabs of concrete, and brutalist monsters of the 60s!!!!!!)

Wow. You are an optimist, aren't you ?

In every period in history there has been mediocre architecture and great architecture. Today is not different, nor will be tomorrow.

WhipperSnapper · #**5190** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 2:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ramako

Good thing King Blue has no chance of getting built. Entertainment District condo sales have dried up.

Unfortunately, this is a strong development team that is more than capable of getting these towers built even in a down period.

Andrewjm3D · #**5191** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 2:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Never posted rendering of King Blue Condos

from talk condo website

http://www.talkcondo.com/blog/king-blue-starting-to-make-some-noise

We get these two turds instead of these two gems, what the hell happened? I hope they can't sell. In fact I hope the market goes belly up for a few years just to stop them.

DrNest · #**5192** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 2:49 AM**

I actually prefer the newer rendering to the previous mis-stacked boxes. They're common in designs around the world and I fully anticipate us looking back in a few decades thinking 'what on Earth were we thinking? Why did we permit those to be built?'

Ramako · #**5193** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 3:35 AM**

As already mentioned, hoarding is going up around the Casa II site. It's hard to believe that this one has moved as fast as it has. I wonder if at this point they're just planning on knocking down the existing building instead of actually starting excavation.

Andrewjm3D · #**5194** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 3:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by DrNest

I actually prefer the newer rendering to the previous mis-stacked boxes. They're common in designs around the world and I fully anticipate us looking back in a few decades thinking 'what on Earth were we thinking? Why did we permit those to be built?'

They're far more interesting then what we will get. The stacked boxes were at least a fresh style in the country. For every stacked box tower around the world there are a 1000 building like the PoMo style we will now get.

DrNest · #**5195** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 4:28 AM**

Interesting, perhaps. But not better looking. It's a fad that to me just doesn't look good.
It's kinda like those t-shirts from the '80s which reacted and changed colour according to body heat... They seemed like a good idea at the time, but people soon realised how farcical they looked. And history went on to show they weren't a wise idea.

Maybe a hybrid of the two designs would work. The straight vertical of the latest rendering with cladding patterned similar to the previous design.
However, I accept each has their own tastes, and respect yours.

TallBob · #**5196** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 5:55 AM**

I like the old render of "King Blue". Getting too carried away with that other Shyte!

caltrane74 · #**5197** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 3:07 PM**

Bay Adelaide 2 - getting ready to throwdown!!

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Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Not Started

Location: 10 ADELAIDE ST W
TORONTO ON M5H 1L6

Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 12 227520 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Aug 10, 2012

Project: Multiple Use/Non Residential Demolition

Description: Proposal to demolish existing 3 sty commercial building. Also backfill basement. Convenience address - 14 Adelaide St W.

Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Not Started

Location: 40 ADELAIDE ST W
TORONTO ON M5H 4E3

Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 12 227502 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Aug 10, 2012

Project: Restaurant Greater Than 30 Seats Demolition

Description: Proposal to demolish existing 1 sty restaurant. Convenience address - 20 Adelaide St W.

LeftCoaster · #**5198** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 3:13 PM**

Should be well U/C before the end of the year.

Excited to watch this one go up but kinda bummed it will add to the shadows of the plaza where I eat lunch.

suburbanite · #**5199** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 4:03 PM**

Haha, I usually bring my lunch there a few times a week as well. If I'm not there or behind my office at Dundee Place, I'm at the Commerce Court Plaza.

Although at 12-1pm, a building to the East shouldn't pose to much interference.

LeftCoaster · #**5200** Posted **Aug 14, 2012, 4:04 PM**

No it shouldn't at all, but I do coffee there in the mornings as well.

It's actually a pretty decent little plaza.