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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 3:05 PM
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Does the re-design of Mayfair have to go through the EDC again? If not, why not?

Once something is approved, you'd think they would have to build what was approved. Any changes to design would have to be re-approved. Otherwise, what's to prevent anyone from doing just this?
     
     
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 3:25 PM
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The redesign already did go through the EDC to the best of my knowledge.
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 3:31 PM
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^it went back to EDC with the revisions a few weeks ago...March 6.


C.7. Mayfair North Development Permit Application
Architecture ATB - Rick Arndt
10037, 10039, 10045 and 10051 - 109 Street NW;
10815 and 10845 Jasper Avenue NW
Site legally described as:
Lots 38 - 46, Block 8, Plan NB

P. Odinga read the comments of the Development Planner.

MOVED: R. Lederer

Motion of support with conditions
Administrative walk-on required

• Revise the Mayfair North podium elevation to match the detail and articulation found in the
Mayfair South podium and original Mayfair North development permit;
• Provide an accurate and detailed elevation of the North façade (Jasper Avenue);
• Provide details of the North (Jasper Avenue) main residential entry recess and signage;
• The Committee supports the relocation of the 109 Street corner sculpture to a more
appropriate site provided a new piece of public art be located at the main entry on Jasper
Avenue. If the sculpture could be relocated, the Committee would recommend providing a
commercial entrance off of the corner.

SECONDED: L. Woodland

CARRIED
FOR THE MOTION: P. Osborne, R. Lederer, C. Domanski, K. Kerr, C. McRae, A. Pantelimon,
L. Woodland

AGAINST: C. McRae


http://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/urban_planning_and_design/edc-minutes-and-agendas.aspx
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 3:37 PM
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C.8. Corners Tower One and Two
GHM Architects – David Hamilton
Located at 94 Street and Jasper Avenue, The Quarters
Note: The site is large and has an extensive legal description, hence
the specific municipal address and legal description is not specified.

P. Odinga read the comments of the Development Planner.

MOVED: A. Pantelimon

Motion of support with conditions
Administrative walk-on required

• Revise the proposed color palette to introduce more contemporary vibrant colors that
will help engage with our winter city environment;
• Provide high quality and durable materials at the podium level as described on page
16 of your presentation booklet;
• Provide a context plan that details the towers relationship to the Five Corners plan;
• Provide fully dimensioned and labelled site and floor plans showing all Setbacks,
tower Step backs and entrances;
• Provide a detailed landscape plan, including all adjacent City of Edmonton
improvements;
• Provide a detailed podium rooftop landscape plan;
• Provide a comprehensive detailed signage plan and detail the relationship to the
exterior canopies;
• Provide a detailed lighting plan including podium lighting, tower lighting and rooftop
amenity lighting;
• Provide sustainability targets and confirmation that the project will engage a third
party review for compliance;
• Provide a public art plan.

SECONDED: R. Lederer

LOST
FOR THE MOTION: R. Lederer, C. McRae, A. Pantelimon
AGAINST: P. Osborne, C. Domanski, K. Kerr, L. Tomlinson

MOVED: K. Kerr

Motion of non-support

• Reconsider the tower forms in relation to each other and allow the towers to engage
each other architecturally to form a gateway to the downtown;
• The current massing of the towers is over articulated;
• The Committee recommends reducing the floor plate to meet the average floor plate
of 750 square meters to create a more slender massing;
Revise the proposed color palette to introduce more contemporary vibrant colors that
will help engage with our winter city environment;
• Provide high quality and durable materials at the podium level as described on page
16 of your presentation booklet.

As an Eastern gateway to the Downtown, the five corners site needs to set a precedent for high
quality urban design, and pedestrian oriented development within the Quarters. The current detail
provided within the package does not show adequate design resolution to be confident that a high
quality design will be achieved. More careful consideration needs to be taken in to the integration of
the surrounding context into the design.

The following information is required as part of your resubmission:
• Provide a context plan that details the towers relationship to the Five Corners plan;
• Provide fully dimensioned and labelled site and floor plans showing all Setbacks,
tower Step backs and entrances;
• Provide a detailed landscape plan, including all adjacent City of Edmonton
improvements;
• Provide a detailed podium rooftop landscape plan;
• Provide a comprehensive detailed signage plan and detail the relationship to the
exterior canopies;
• Provide a detailed lighting plan including podium lighting, tower lighting and rooftop
amenity lighting;
• Provide sustainability targets and confirmation that the project will engage a third
party review for compliance;
• Provide a public art plan.

The Committee will not accept a resubmission that is not coordinated and complete.

SECONDED: L. Woodland

CARRIED
FOR THE MOTION: P. Osborne, R. Lederer, C. Domanski, K. Kerr, C. McRae, L. Woodland
AGAINST: A. Pantelimon
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 5:16 PM
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REMINDER

Downtown Edmonton Community League

Annual General Meeting 2012

Join us at Yellowhead Brewery, in the historic Shaw Building:

Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Registration 6:30 p.m., Meeting 7:00 p.m.
10229 105 Street NW

Facebook event – http://www.facebook.com/events/209067125863218/

Special guest speaker this year will be Rick Daviss, Executive Director of the Downtown Arena Project. He will be giving us an update on the status of the project and design of the arena and district.

A Special Resolution will be presented at the AGM to update our society’s bylaws. The proposed bylaws bring our current bylaws up to the standard suggested by the Alberta Societies Act, and are more thorough in terms of describing procedures than our current bylaws.

An update on our new downtown park (105st/102 ave)will also be presented and you will have an opportunity for input and feedback of the progress thus far.

Volunteer for the league by joining a committee:

- Development Committee
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- Parks Committee
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Refreshments and snacks will be provided! One drink ticket per DECL membership, cash bar available as well.

$5 DECL memberships will be available at the door!

Come on down, get to know your neighbours, get to know what’s happening in your vibrant downtown community!
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As an Eastern gateway to the Downtown, the five corners site needs to set a precedent for high quality urban design, and pedestrian oriented development within the Quarters. The current detail provided within the package does not show adequate design resolution to be confident that a high quality design will be achieved. More careful consideration needs to be taken into the integration of the surrounding context into the design.

EDC couldn't use this logic for Mayfair north!?!

It could sound like this.

As a East West North and South gateway to the Downtown, Jasper and 109st site needs to set a precedent for high quality urban design, and pedestrian oriented development within the Downtown. The current detail provided within the package does not show adequate design resolution to be confident that a high quality design will be achieved. More careful consideration needs to be taken into the integration of the surrounding context into the design.
     
     
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 5:30 PM
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Exactly... perhaps forward that to Jane, the Mayor, Planning (Gary Klassen) and EDC.
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Exactly... perhaps forward that to Jane, the Mayor, Planning (Gary Klassen) and EDC.
Oh thats done.......
     
     
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Maybe we should start sending hate mail right to the developer like they're doing over on C2E.....


Have we even seen a real rendering of Mayfair north, something more than the grainy screen capture off the Global 6 oclock news ?
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Old Posted May 8, 2012, 5:43 PM
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^haha... although we did ask people to be constructive

Not publicly no
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^haha... although we did ask people to be constructive

Not publicly no

We have to be professional and not make it look like you are some fanatical nut job when emailing or communicating with any form of Govt or business. Ive heard that works better!


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We have to be professional and not make it look like you are some fanatical nut job....
...or CEO. whoops.
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Spring home construction hits a post-boom high

Starts up 27 per cent from a year ago in April and 36 per cent in the first four months

BY BILL MAH, EDMONTON JOURNAL MAY 8, 2012 12:02 PM

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A crane lowers the finished roof onto a new home under construction near 215th Street north of 45th Avenue.
Photograph by: Bruce Edwards , Edmonton Journal
EDMONTON - Edmonton-region homebuilders are much busier than they were a year ago, with housing starts in April up 27.6 per cent from 2011.

April starts in the Edmonton census metropolitan area totalled 967 units, up from 758 units the previous year, the Canada Mortgage Housing Corp. said Tuesday.

In the single-detached market, which tends to be less volatile than the multi-family sector, builders started 493 units in April across the region. That’s up 13 per cent from 436 single starts a year earlier.

For Edmonton alone, builders broke ground on 313 singles in April, up nine per cent year-over-year.

“This is the fifth consecutive month where starts were higher on a year-over-year basis,” said Christina Butchart, CMHC’s senior market analyst for Edmonton.

Multi-family starts in the CMA in April rose 47 per cent year-over-year to 474 units.

“With 1,596 units to the end of April, multi-family starts across the Edmonton CMA were almost 50 per cent higher than the first four months of 2011, accounting for half of all housing starts so far this year,” Butchart said.

For the year to date, total housing starts in the Edmonton CMA jumped 36.5 per cent to 3,172, up from 2,323 for the first four months of 2011.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/business/6586381/story.html
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Would love to see this kind of density and design/massing in the warehouse district.

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Maybe we should start sending hate mail right to the developer like they're doing over on C2E.....

?
I believe they are organizing an "occupy procura" rally.
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Oh man, it is C2E I suppose....
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This debacle is starting to make me wish that the old Mayfair Hotel stayed put.
     
     
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Well, if I wanted to hear any more stories from Big Jim (RIP) about the various times men tried to get him involved in with a little brown stuff at that hotel, sure go with it.
     
     
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