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something major happening at the Toronto Convention Centre, which was sold to Oxford Properties last summer....posted by TOareaFan over at UT...



rest of the news report here...

http://www.renx.ca/Detailed/Commercial/Oxford_Dreaming_Big_in_Downtown_Toronto_24490.html
Convention centre redevelopment is going to be huge, but don't expect it to race along like so much of the development in Toronto lately. Oxford is likely to take its time and do it right along Front St, not to mention all the pieces that need to fall into place to get the project moving.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2012, 3:56 AM
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I suppose even Trabant's get love.
Ha ha. I admit that I had to look that one up.

What's not to like about it? I think it's quite well done. Nice composition. Nice scale on the sidewalk. Unique concept.

I would take it over the gaudi mish mash Edmonton hotel that will be dated before it opens.....or should I say was dated before the architect put his pencil down.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2012, 4:39 AM
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I would take it over the gaudi mish mash Edmonton hotel that will be dated before it opens.....or should I say was dated before the architect put his pencil down.
It's always hilarious how Edmonton proposals draw your ire.

Complained about the AGA which is a great looking building - check.

Complaining about the Quarters Hotel which is a phenomenal looking building - check.

Complained about the RAM. - check. Though the RAM is probably the only thing on which you've made a bit of sense on and I agree with.

It's just really damn funny. Thankfully opinions are like....
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2012, 6:38 AM
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^ add the pomo city hall to that list....not a proposal i suppose.

just a coincidence...i like edmonton....very under appreciated city.

its not ire...they are just terrible designs.....AGA is the blandest $400m museum on earth....RAM is is a clumsy replication of of building type that has been passe for a decade....that hotel is simply trying way too hard to be cool, lacking any kind of design finesse.

generally, i prefer timeless and thoughtful to uninspired or wacky for wacky's sake.

that manulife tower looks to be a gem....and the arena looks like a beaut......

love commonwealth stadium....until they put plastic grass in it that is.
     
     
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Ha ha. I admit that I had to look that one up.

What's not to like about it? I think it's quite well done. Nice composition. Nice scale on the sidewalk. Unique concept.

I would take it over the gaudi mish mash Edmonton hotel that will be dated before it opens.....or should I say was dated before the architect put his pencil down.
I'm not a fan of the Edmonton condo either. The Gottingen Street proposal has the right scale, but it's far too unsophisticated a design for a city over 100,000. If this were proposed for Yellowknife or Yarmouth fine, but not Halifax. It's reminiscent of starter apartments blocks that people in university/fixed income live in. It's just not anywhere close to being good enough.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2012, 8:16 AM
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I'm going to agree with the last two posters on the Edmonton projects. Not good.
     
     
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man you know the city better than me, and I live here.

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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 4:05 AM
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RUmour has it Edmonton is getting a W and le Germain hotel. Awesome
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Edmonton has been on a role lately. No W Hotel here, gotta absorb whats been built I guess.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 5:03 AM
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RUmour has it Edmonton is getting a W and le Germain hotel. Awesome
it would surprise me about the W....i heard recently that starwood has rejected calgary as an option, so i doubt edmonton would get one.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 5:06 AM
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it would surprise me about the W....i heard recently that starwood has rejected calgary as an option, so i doubt edmonton would get one.
apparently tied to the arena plans
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 5:15 AM
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interesting....we'll see i guess....it would really surprise me if edmonton qualified for a W when calgary doesnt, but you never know.....would be awesome.

i know specifically that calgary was recently turned down.
     
     
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The Gottingen Street proposal has the right scale, but it's far too unsophisticated a design for a city over 100,000... It's reminiscent of starter apartments blocks that people in university/fixed income live in.
This is pretty much exactly the market that this building is targeting, as far as I know. It's tough to develop in this area because "gentrification" is considered such a dirty word. This is going up in an area that has a major public housing presence and is becoming more and more popular with students.

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Gottingen was considered rough but has been gentrifying a lot lately and has seen a couple of private condo developments. I'm not sure exactly what it's like presently because I haven't been back in a couple of years.
I'd say it's getting better overall. It's becoming a bit of a hipster heartland.. there are a few new art galleries and performance venues (the Paragon closed a few months ago but the Company House and Bus Stop Theatre seems to be doing well). Crime is still an issue (I lived at Brunswick and Cogswell before the new year and was the victim of a nasty break-and-enter, part of a larger crime wave in the area in the fall) but these incidents tend to drop in the winter, since most of the "criminals" are kids from the projects who seem to commit most of their crimes when it's nice out

There has been speculation that this area will develop as Halifax's Gay Village (a few of the establishments on Gottingen cater to the LGBT crowd, and Refelctions was looking at taking over the Paragon but wasn't able to transfer its cabaret license) although downtown Halifax is basically one big gay village anyway the Gottingen area I'd describe as increasingly "hipster" though for sure, and decidedly left-wing (Megan Leslie's office is at Gottingen and Cunard).

I think the city should focus on emphasizing the qualities that make Gottingen unique. One thing that I think would improve the street tremendously would be some old-school, exaggerated googie-deco signage like it had back in the 60s:

Some of the newer buildings such as Theatre Lofts seem to be incorporating architectural references to this area (TL itself is a visual reference to the abundance of cinemas that used to line Gottingen). Global's new studios will also add an interesting dynamic, although it's a shame that Palooka's is closing.
     
     
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interesting....we'll see i guess....it would really surprise me if edmonton qualified for a W when calgary doesnt, but you never know.....would be awesome.

i know specifically that calgary was recently turned down.
Keep in mind that they are both rumours from an unconfirmed source, but we do know that the arena district is planning a hotel as is a private developer in the middle of the CBD.
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It's funny these W rumors are now floating around another Canadian city. I don't understand the big deal with W. There are plenty of other great boutique hotels out there.
     
     
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I would much rather something like a Shangri La or a Four Seasons way before a W for the Edmonton Arena District.
     
     
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the w chain is at the point where it is going to the edmontons of the world. good for edmonton, bad for w.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2012, 5:20 PM
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I would much rather something like a Shangri La or a Four Seasons way before a W for the Edmonton Arena District.
Shang I cannot see.... nor 4 seasons unless the Sutton is rebranded again.

Le Germain would be awesome to have and W would bring a nice change from the current group of pretty bland looking major hotels.
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