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Old Posted Feb 14, 2012, 10:16 PM
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 12:19 AM
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 8:30 PM
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I just got done reading the airport development article on EIA. I am confused by their illustrations, it almost seems like they might start developing the North Terminal right after the completion of 2012, which would make since. The reason I'm consfused is because of the diagrams for Million Passengers a year (MPA) diagrams 9MPA and 12MPA.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2012, 11:14 PM
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^what article?
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2012, 1:00 AM
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2012, 11:39 PM
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You're talking about pg. 96 of this (http://corporate.flyeia.com/media/469457/eiamasterplan_2010-2035.pdf) right?

Those expansions are forecast for 12M PAX and 16M PAX.





So... looks like, barring some huge growth over the next few years, the north and south expansion for 12M PAX won't begin for a little bit yet. I'd love to see the original terminal heavily renovated and brought up to spec for the time being though.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 5:49 AM
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Thanks! Interesting that the central pier is gone, also the North terminal looks different, I would not be surprised if they continue with that north expansion between 2014-2017 depending on what Westjet announces with their new airline.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 3:40 PM
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Shame we can't develop more of a T shape than an I
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You're talking about pg. 96 of this (http://corporate.flyeia.com/media/469457/eiamasterplan_2010-2035.pdf) right?

Those expansions are forecast for 12M PAX and 16M PAX.





So... looks like, barring some huge growth over the next few years, the north and south expansion for 12M PAX won't begin for a little bit yet. I'd love to see the original terminal heavily renovated and brought up to spec for the time being though.
How does this work with the hotel locations?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 3:42 PM
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Hotel is just south (east actually) of the blue/blue intersection.
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EJ is reporting LKM adding 2 flights a week from AMS to YYC - making it daily. Perhaps KLM are planning to siphon traffic from AC. Lets hope the AC response is new non-stops from YEG to FRA. That is the best way to ensure traffic stays AC.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/...msterdam+from+Calgary/6192293/story.html
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 7:33 AM
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^ I wouldn't pay too much attention to this article.

I am from Calgary but even I can see one-sided reporting even here:

The additional capacity being added by KLM is only partially offsetting the losses that have been occurring. The KLM addition is only a 19% increase.

LH flew 6 weekly (daily in 2010) in the summer (not 4 as the article suggests).

AC had 12 weekly flights to LHR in 2010, now only daily (although a 77W now).

As for AC flying larger planes to FRA, yes this is true in the winter, but in the summer this flight remains a 333, so no increase there.

Overall, capacity to Europe will be significantly lower in summer 2012.

Conclusion - I fail to see how this "increased number of flights will funnel tourists from all over Europe into the province."
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 3:37 PM
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I'd love to see the original terminal heavily renovated and brought up to spec for the time being though.

Quoted for truth!!! The original south terminal expansion is a huge step above what is existing in the old north terminal section, even as it sits today. Likewise, the expansion 2012 section is leaps above the earlier south terminal expansion. There is no real flow. Even the signage indicating the gate number differs in each section.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 5:35 PM
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^ I wouldn't pay too much attention to this article.

I am from Calgary but even I can see one-sided reporting even here:

The additional capacity being added by KLM is only partially offsetting the losses that have been occurring. The KLM addition is only a 19% increase.

LH flew 6 weekly (daily in 2010) in the summer (not 4 as the article suggests).

AC had 12 weekly flights to LHR in 2010, now only daily (although a 77W now).

As for AC flying larger planes to FRA, yes this is true in the winter, but in the summer this flight remains a 333, so no increase there.

Overall, capacity to Europe will be significantly lower in summer 2012.

Conclusion - I fail to see how this "increased number of flights will funnel tourists from all over Europe into the province."
That is a very honest and transparent assessment from you. Much appreciated.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 10:28 PM
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 5:39 PM
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This article really shows the numbers on eia; it points out the Edmonton feeds YVR YYC and YYZ with all our flights. Crazy. The ERAA had it simple to brag about growth during the boom years, but honestly anyone can make it rain during those times. Now that we haven't seen any big announcements really since LHR, unless you consider IAH big, we're really back to being a big spoke to YYC. Look at the graphs

http://www.anna.aero/2012/02/29/edmonton...nsborder-traffic-which-grew-8pc-in-2011/

Also try booking anything from the states or anywhere in canada to the north and you get routed through YYC...not yeg...so besides having Canadian North here we are not the gateway to the North in aviations terms. I fly Edmonton first, but it has reached a point where it is getting very pricey considering on average in the past 12 months I have paid 200 more to fly YEG into the states compared to connecting in YYC or YVR.
     
     
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It really is ridiculous.

I can understand the focus on their hub cities but it's beyond comprehension how AC refuses to even throw us a piece of the bone from time to time.

Regardless, I haven't flown AC in a long time and that won't be changing any time soon.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 6:06 PM
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I'm not even pointing fingers at AC anymore, as I've flown them to LHR now many times and avoided YYC, it's been nice and used their partner UA all the time to fly to the states. However, it will be interesting now that WS is hubbing big time via YYC with its new codeshare with AA. Like I stated ERAA beated its chest through the boom years Look at our growth, look at our stats, once expansion is complete we'll get more flights because of gates being available. I'm a huge supporter of flying out of YEG, but just look at how empty the flight skeds are for departing between 8am-9am...slight problem? Yep.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 8:26 PM
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Very well said dansk. WS will continue to add flights at YYC, YYZ and YVR. But even look at Air Transat. If we are more of an economy flying city than a businesss flying city than we should get a few more TS flights in the summer time. Even Canada 3000 had better options way back when and i know friends and relatives that used these flights. Where is Martinair, KLM, BA, etc. They could have also flown a few flights per week to YEG. I too am paying more to fly LHR-YEG this summer. The YEG-LHR flights are expensive.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 29, 2012, 8:44 PM
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Even Chicago and Houston; I just paid 789$ to fly again to ORD and WS this summer is at 520$. Houston I just flew down this week and I paid 870$, where flying via YYC was 640$. It's time for us to put GOOD pressure, not negative pressure on our authority demanding them to try harder as we need better.
     
     
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