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Rico Rommheim · #**1301** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 6:18 PM**

Good news! Downtown's most egregious lot is going away in the foreseeable future! Good riddance!

A giant bar? Why not? A giant bar with a 50 storey tower on top of it? Pourquoi pas!!

leftimage · #**1302** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 6:30 PM**

Here's the lot for those wondering.

Rico Rommheim · #**1303** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 10:16 PM**

^Yeah we only see small glimpse of it on the top right (between CCE and IBM).

Here's one in the Gazette article.

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http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Prim...entre+fetches+million/6052964/story.html

MONTREAL - A parking lot across from the Bell Centre has fetched one of downtown Montreal's highest prices for land in the last five years, reflecting ongoing demand for sites in prime locations with sky-high zoning potential.

The 31,822-square-foot site on Ave. des Canadiens, between de la Montagne and Drummond Sts., sold for $14.1 million last week, real estate services firm CBRE Ltd. said.

Per square foot, it's more than what most Montrealers would pay these days for a mid-priced condo.

The land was sold by Modico Canada Ltd. and Stationnement Modico Inc. to a Montreal developer backed by a Toronto equity partner.

The land fetched a high price because it could be used for anything from a 40-storey condo tower to a hotel to a giant bar where Habs fans could congregate after a game.

"It's a site that can support any use," said Brett Miller, CBRE's executive vice-president and regional managing director for eastern Canada.

And just as Montreal-area condo starts and resales both hit record high levels in 2011, so have sales of the land used mostly in the construction of new residential towers. In the Greater Montreal Area, the sales volume of high density land, located mostly in the downtown core, rose to almost $161 million in 2011, from just over $152 million in 2010, CBRE figures show.

Miller said deals like the Modico lot transaction, which follow detailed market studies, prove that development is still strong in the Montreal area, despite remarks from some analysts and builders who say they are expecting softer sales in 2012 compared to previous years.

"It shows that among people in the know ... there's the conviction that the market has strength."

This week, the Quebec Federation of Real Estate Boards forecast a two per cent rise in provincial housing sales, along with price increases slightly above inflation.

According to the Teranet-National Bank house price index released Wednesday, Canadian house prices dropped 0.2 per cent in November 2011 for the first time in nearly a year.

The national composite index, which tracks registered prices of homes sold at least twice, shows prices rose .4 per cent in Montreal, but fell in eight of the 11 metropolitan markets tracked - one more than in October.

Financial Post contributed to this story.

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digitboy · #**1304** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Good news! Downtown's most egregious lot is going away in the foreseeable future! Good riddance!

A giant bar? Why not? A giant bar with a 50 storey tower on top of it? Pourquoi pas!!

Bon bon bon, ou vais-je stationner mon char la prochaine fois que je vais aller au centre Bell ?!

Rico Rommheim · #**1305** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 11:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by digitboy

Bon bon bon, ou vais-je stationner mon char la prochaine fois que je vais aller au centre Bell ?!

Stationne ta carcasse a moteur dans n'importe Quel des 2000 parkings a crosse dans Le centre-ville! Moi, je prends Le metro!

leftimage · #**1306** Posted **Jan 26, 2012, 11:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by digitboy

Bon bon bon, ou vais-je stationner mon char la prochaine fois que je vais aller au centre Bell ?!

S'ils sont smart il aura un beau parking sous-terrain a ce nouvel endroit pour toi

Alexcaban · #**1307** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 12:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by digitboy

Bon bon bon, ou vais-je stationner mon char la prochaine fois que je vais aller au centre Bell ?!

Its called the Metro

MTLskyline · #**1308** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 2:49 AM**

New project designed by DCYSA. SSP exclusive.

Here is the location (Wellington between King and Soeur-Grises in Old Montreal): http://g.co/maps/n5k65

It looks like it is on the site of old buildings (that are worth keeping/restoring IMO). I can't say I am in favour of this generic project (ugly even) being built in this prime location.

Robertpuant · #**1309** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:10 AM**

The area has plenty of cool modern buildings from 2000 to now. This one won't be one of them.

Rico Rommheim · #**1310** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:14 AM**

Thanks for the scoop! But what a let down!

Montreal needs better architects, ville de design yeah sure.

The Gibbroni · #**1311** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:22 AM**

Ugh! The various M9's are infinitely better. I hope that doesn't go through.

The Gibbroni · #**1312** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by leftimage

Here's the lot for those wondering.

Every time I walk by that lot I start muttering to myself. Good riddance!

Robertpuant · #**1313** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:39 AM**

It's just so freaking big! I'm glad it's owned by more than one group of people. Otherwise we would have wait another 50 years before it could be developed. Now let's wait for a render!

West_aust · #**1314** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:01 AM**

Part of the land of that new project you just posted is currently a small parking lot (corner soeur-grises and wellington) and a blind wall behind it from the project next door on S-G.

As for the building on King street, for the most part of what would be demolished is just some non-interesting 3 story red brick building with no architectural features whatsoever.

Only "nice" building would be the one on the corner of King and Wellington.

The Gibbroni · #**1315** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:02 AM**

Is it the building on the left with the à louer sign on it? (I believe I took these shortly after Google drove through)

If so, I seriously hope that they will keep the existing and cancel that pile of glop.

West_aust · #**1316** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by The Gibbroni

Is it the building on the left with the à louer sign on it? (I believe I took these shortly after Google drove through)

If so, I seriously hope that they will keep the existing and cancel that pile of glop.

No, it's across the street, that building on the left has been all restored inside and partly outside by it's new tenant/owner

The Gibbroni · #**1317** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:15 AM**

Ah, so the building next to the parking in the background? I guess that would be the only viable way to build anything on that corner, the parking is too small.

MTLskyline · #**1318** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by West_aust

Part of the land of that new project you just posted is currently a small parking lot (corner soeur-grises and wellington) and a blind wall behind it from the project next door on S-G.

As for the building on King street, for the most part of what would be demolished is just some non-interesting 3 story red brick building with no architectural features whatsoever.

Only "nice" building would be the one on the corner of King and Wellington.

The building bordering the parking lot on Wellington (not on the corner) is worth keeping too.

The non-descript buildings on King I don't care about losing, but I much prefer them to this fugly mismatch yellow/black brick monstrosity that looks like it was pulled from the Triangle neighbourhood on Jean-Talon.

Old Montreal deserves better.

The Gibbroni · #**1319** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 4:48 AM**

Agreed, although that isn't really Old Montreal. By themselves, none of those buildings are particularly significant, but within the context of the location they add to the post industrial lofty feel of the hood. That pile of dreck adds nothing.

I know it isn't that simple but there are heaps of vacant parking further up between William and St-Maurice. I'd love to see that developed without whacking out existing structures.

Makes you wonder why they didn't simply extend this building right out to Wellington. Probably some 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 holdout who refused to sell so they just said "Fine, 🞵🞵🞵🞵 you."

West_aust · #**1320** Posted **Jan 27, 2012, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by MTLskyline

The building bordering the parking lot on Wellington (not on the corner) is worth keeping too.

Counted both of them as one building while looking fast on streetview, but they are indeed 2 different ones and worth keeping.

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The non-descript buildings on King I don't care about losing, but I much prefer them to this fugly mismatch yellow/black brick monstrosity that looks like it was pulled from the Triangle neighbourhood on Jean-Talon.

Old Montreal deserves better.

I agree this design isn't that great, especially the color, replace the yellow brick with red one and it's already 100 times better looking and fitting for that part of town. Then include the existing building described above and you could get something nice