Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals

[WhipperSnapper]

Too many mistakes on Jarvis for it to ever regain its former glory. I also don't know why anyone would get excited about a residential tower, the lowest common demonimator, that with be nearly twice as tall as anything surounding it. That includes a ton of condos which won't face redevelopment in our children's lifetimes.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Too many mistakes on Jarvis for it to ever regain its former glory. I also don't know why anyone would get excited about a residential tower, the lowest common demonimator, that with be nearly twice as tall as anything surounding it. That includes a ton of condos which won't face redevelopment in our children's lifetimes.

I like condo towers on Jarvis because they further encourage gentrification and bring a lot more pedestrian traffic to the area.

In addition to this development, new additions include Couture, X, X2, Pace, 200 Dundas and Market Wharf. It's also got numerous heritage buildings and a good number of mixed uses including Rogers Corporate Headquarters, the refurbished Sears building, the National Ballet complex, and the youth courthouse.

There is still a lot of potential for redevelopment on Jarvis and it's got good bones. Perhaps it will never regain its former glory, but I do expect that it will go from a run-down and neglected thoroughfare, to a dense and urban neighbourhood forming an integral part of the downtown.

[yaletown_fella]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Great news on 197 to 205 Yonge. Sounds like at least one bank building will be perserved.

That's a relief. I hate to be a "NIMBY" but I'd rather the madness ends before any condo developer can get their grubby hands on those (neoclassical?) beauties.

I'd prefer to see a modestly scaled minimalist glass mixed use midrise that preserves the buildings in their entirety and create a new public "arcade" on the ground level. Be it a cafe/outdoor art gallery venue or whatever. Somthing like the RCM addition would be perfect.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

That's a relief. I hate to be a "NIMBY" but I'd rather the madness ends before any condo developer can get their grubby hands on those (neoclassical?) beauties.

I'd prefer to see a modestly scaled minimalist glass mixed use midrise that preserves the buildings in their entirety and create a new public "arcade" on the ground level. Be it a cafe/outdoor art gallery venue or whatever. Somthing like the RCM addition would be perfect.

These are all the same guys behind Five Condos, so I expect that they can be trusted to handle this kind of development.

[caltrane74]

The new Tower will be built behind the historical bank. So it should remain untouched by the tower with the exception of support for the structure during shoring.

[Andrewjm3D]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Too many mistakes on Jarvis for it to ever regain its former glory.

Actually there are plans for Jarvis that will help it regain some of it's former glory. Dividing it something like University with a bike/pedestrian median. Unfortunately our idiot mayor has roadblock on this work by removing the bike lane and returning it to a 5 lane road. The local councilor is fighting to keep it alive and I'm sure when we ditch Ford in a little over 2 years we can get the ball rolling on the Jarvis st improvement again.

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by CanadianNational

Well, I looked it up on Google earth - apparently the laneway does end where you said - right near the parked white car, pw20.

Here's an outline, with the back of Massey Hall as one parcel and the 197-201 lots as another.
I took officedweller's suggestion that the tower might be built out, or cantilevered out, a bit above the existing bank building, shown by the red line.




I put a 600' tower in where the red outline would be in this sketchup massing:

From Canadian National at UT

Massy Tower / massing models

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread....evelopments-60s-Hariri-Pontarini)/page25

Please note CN used a 600 foot tower, most of us believe the tower will come in at 680 feet. I'll ask him to make a model with a 680 foot tower.

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by CanadianNational

Shore! 680 ft / 200m.

(model extremely hypothetical in form)

CN did an updated rendering at 680 feet

Here you go

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthread....evelopments-60s-Hariri-Pontarini)/page26

[Chadillaccc]

Nice

[caltrane74]

200 meter plus building count - UC/Built/Proposed/Potential Development

1. FCP - 298
2. Scotiaplaza 275
3. Aura - 273
4. Trump - 276
5. Brookfield Place - 263
6. 10 York - 253 meters
7. 45 Bay - 244
8 90 Harbour - 239.5
9. 90 Harbour - 239.5
10. Commerce Court - 239
11. One Bloor - 238 (255)
12. ICE 2. - 234
13 43 Simcoe - 234
14. TD Centre 223
15. 156 Front Street - 221
16. Bay Adelaide centre - 218
17. Shangrila Toronto - 212
18. Ritz Toronto - 209
19. 2183 Lakeshore (Eau)
20. Bay Wellington - 208
21. 460 Yonge - 207
22. L Tower - 205
23. Four Seasons Toronto - 204
24. ICE West - 202 meters
25. 88 Scott - 202
26. Massey Tower - unknown
27. Yonge & Eglinton Bazis - unknown
28. 60 Harbour - unknown
29. 60 Harbour - unknown
30. Yorkville Parking Deck 55 floors - unknown
31. Richmond Adelaide III - 44 Floors - unknown

List is likely subject to change.

[Chadillaccc]

Imagine if somehow the developers manage to push Aura to over 300 meters? I'm sure its foundations could support it

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

List is likely subject to change.

Don't forget the visions/proposal for 60 Harbour Street:



Only 7 more to go to hit 40. I wonder what's coming for the Sapphire/Canada Tower site.

[WhipperSnapper]

So Toronto now has an unconfirmed 41 five hundred footers built and under construction but, it appears we'll have to wait awhile for number 42 according to the Top 50 proposals list. What about number 50?

[caltrane74]

I have 60 Harbour at the bottom of my list.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

I have 60 Harbour at the bottom of my list.

Oops. Well I recall LeftCoaster saying that the rumoured supertall will likely be split into two towers. Here's hoping that they're both 200+ metre biggies.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

So Toronto now has an unconfirmed 41 five hundred footers built and under construction but, it appears we'll have to wait awhile for number 42 according to the Top 50 proposals list. What about number 50?

FIVE may be number 42 if the proposed addition of 5 floors goes through.

[caltrane74]

I remember not too long ago Toronto had 13 500 footers and Calgary had 8 or 9.

Times are changing fast!!

[Andrewjm3D]

Originally Posted by Ramako

I wonder what's coming for the Sapphire/Canada Tower site.

Canada Tower, it now has a new name but should go into sales soon. 200m+

[Travis007]

Regarding Massey Tower, Hariri Pontarini architects have been providing us with some — designs lately (One Bloor, Five, Gloucester, Context King West, etc) so we can count on a quality project for this important and intricate site.

[urbandreamer]

Still a guess on the name, but Toronto Realtor Mark Savel just told me it's to be around what I guessed--2x50s Murano-style point towers tucked behind a redone SPH with a few floors tacked on top of old hotel building.