Edmonton Construction 11 (November 2011) - Page 53

Coldrsx · #**1041** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

ANOTHER architect that's only done frame before?

Keep in mind that Ziola came from BZK.

mick · #**1042** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 7:12 PM**

Re Ultima: for my money, this is first time that a downtown condo proposal has, on its first try, met contemporary standards for quality design. It appears that design attention was paid to all sides of the building, and gone are the bells and whistles many Edmonton developers previously demanded, and the failed transitions between tower and podium (Icon, Quest). In its place, we have a simple, clean and coherent looking design. Good work, imo.

ue · #**1043** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 8:07 PM**

What was this John Day 108 Street project supposed to be? First time hearing of it. I would assume he'd be focusing on 122/Jasper.

EDIT: My guess Cold was talking about the Arena or KR Block.

rapid_business · #**1044** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 8:12 PM**

Condo/mixed use. Haven't seen renderings, but it would replace the 1930s apartments that are there, as well as some of the retail right on Jasper/108th (NE corner).

Coldrsx · #**1045** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 8:23 PM**

I love the Patricia Annex and El Mirador. Fond memories of wine and beer nights to the wee hours.

Kevin_foster · #**1046** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 8:39 PM**

Would Ultima be about 120 Meters?

Coldrsx · #**1047** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 8:55 PM**

Icon 1 at 30 storeys is 92m, II is 112m.

So I would guess right around 100m

Kevin_foster · #**1048** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Icon 1 at 30 storeys is 92m, II is 112m.

So I would guess right around 100m

Ok. Height at 100M would look like this:

Coldrsx · #**1049** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:09 PM**

That will really begin to balance the south and north edges of the downtown.

Harrison · #**1050** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:22 PM**

Ultima will make an incredible impact on that corner.

CanadianCentaur · #**1051** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:32 PM**

About the Ultima's height and impact - that's not bad at all. I like it.

Now, how about getting rid of the Grand Hotel?

ue · #**1052** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:39 PM**

^ Not get rid of, rather rejuvinate. That building has some nice character and definitely should be salvaged, what with how little prewar arch there is in Edmonton. As others have mentioned, trendy boutique hotel would be nice, or maybe some alternative retail/restaurant with lofts or offices above.

For those that don't check other threads, check the Arena thread for some interiors on the proposed(?) Arena.

sdimedru · #**1053** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by ue

^ Not get rid of, rather rejuvinate. That building has some nice character and definitely should be salvaged, what with how little prewar arch there is in Edmonton. As others have mentioned, trendy boutique hotel would be nice, or maybe some alternative retail/restaurant with lofts or offices above.

For those that don't check other threads, check the Arena thread for some interiors on the proposed(?) Arena.

maybe I'm in the minority, but there is nothing appealing to me about that hotel in a "historical" view.....

mcc16 · #**1054** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:43 PM**

Its funny that the ultima is so nice because it is so simple. No fancy curves or weird design elements. Just a clean simple building at what seems to be good prices. There is nothing special about this building that makes it a stunning building, but edmonton is definately in need of some simple nice buildings that dont try to hard. When you try to hard you end up failing like the icons...

ue · #**1055** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by sdimedru

maybe I'm in the minority, but there is nothing appealing to me about that hotel in a "historical" view.....

Do you find nothing appealing about the Strathcona Hotel or the 1881 Schoolhouse? It may just be the style of building then which you don't agree with, which is fine, everyone has their own tastes. The wooden turn of the century prairie town look isn't my favourite either, but I still like it as it is a good representation of that time in our province's history.

Coldrsx · #**1056** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:06 PM**

Stationlands Tower 2.... posted by Ken Cantor on C2E

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6727556729_e3a1b773f7.jpg)

SHOFEAR · #**1057** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:13 PM**

lol. I thought the well of sucker government departments willing to lease out space in the city for record rates had run dry.

Kevin_foster · #**1058** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:28 PM**

The ambition of Qualico is awesome. They have a solid product that is deliverable and ready to go. I'm just not 100% sold on the location. It's brutal.

Really, if the remainder of Stationlands builds out as per the plan, I really really really hope downtown starts to creep northwards. Otherwise, those towers sure are lonely and very removed from the action. I don't think I'd want to work there, I'd rather be in the CBD where I don't have to walk 3 blocks to get anywhere.

Coldrsx · #**1059** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:30 PM**

Sure, but add in the RAM, arena and potentially some pacific rim mall redevelopment and things look A LOT better.

Kevin_foster · #**1060** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:32 PM**

^ I sure hope so!