YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by incognism

While I do agree that the government has been quite protectionist with AC (the whole Emirates debacle), AC in the end is still a business that (tries) to make money.

If the load factors were there to justify direct flights from YVR, I assume they would position themselves to take advantage of that. Right now, everything goes through YYZ because it is necessary.

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i wonder if people in kansas city sit around and bitch about how new york gets all the flights and they get shafted

I stand corrected

[YVR Bruce]

What about - laugh or scorn this out as you may - Istanbul as a destination? It makes a perfect transit point for the places mentioned, and Turkish Airlines is expanding fast.

Actually you have a very good idea. Turkish is far and away the leading link to the growing mid east area, let alone its own significant growing market.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/36/the-...city-between-europe-and-the-middle-east/

[deasine]

Emirates is hiring FTs from Vancouver and Edmonton. A sign of things to come?

http://www.workopolis.com/EN/job-search/emirates-jobs?e=314758&lg=en&r=false

[whatnext]

They used to periodically advertise in the Sun etc. for FT's, its just an online version of the same. They rely on ex-pats for staff, I suspect not many of the Emirati are slinging coffee at 38,000 ft.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by deasine

Emirates is hiring FTs from Vancouver and Edmonton. A sign of things to come?

http://www.workopolis.com/EN/job-search/emirates-jobs?e=314758&lg=en&r=false

Interesting stuff; thanks Deasine.

Nevertheless, this leaves a couple of questions hanging in my mind:
Firstly: Now that Emirates has Seattle, why would they want the less-important destination of Vancouver, almost next door?

Secondly: if they're hiring in Edmonton, wouldn't this be for a presumed eventual route out of Calgary (more important $$$ than Edmonton)?

I guess what I'm saying is that it seems hard to believe at this point that Emirates is interested in Western Canada, when it was discovered all they really wanted was daily from Toronto.

Nevertheless, I must admit it piques the curiosity, but I doubt very much Emirates will ever come to Vancouver. Calgary with the oil-related industry, yes. Vancouver, with Seattle next door, no.

For Vancouver, I think Turkish Airlines direct to Istanbul would be equally practical and much less contentious, but who can say.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by whatnext

They used to periodically advertise in the Sun etc. for FT's, its just an online version of the same. They rely on ex-pats for staff, I suspect not many of the Emirati are slinging coffee at 38,000 ft.

Yeah. That kind of went through my mind, too. You beat me to it with your post. Good on 'yer!

[deasine]

I realize they do hire a lot of ex-pats for their staff (technically the entire Middle East relies on foreign labour), but recently there's word that Emirates and Canada's relationship has been improving, so I wouldn't be surprised to see more destinations (or at least more flights to YYZ) in the near future.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by deasine

I realize they do hire a lot of ex-pats for their staff (technically the entire Middle East relies on foreign labour), but recently there's word that Emirates and Canada's relationship has been improving, so I wouldn't be surprised to see more destinations (or at least more flights to YYZ) in the near future.

I read somewhere that Qatar Airways was looking to expand in Canada. They already serve Montreal, and if they expanded, their first goal would be Toronto, of course.

I read something about "four destinations in Canada" so I would assume the other two would be Calgary and Vancouver.

Do you know anything about this?

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I read somewhere that Qatar Airways was looking to expand in Canada. They already serve Montreal, and if they expanded, their first goal would be Toronto, of course.

I read something about "four destinations in Canada" so I would assume the other two would be Calgary and Vancouver.

Do you know anything about this?

They are only months into their first bilateral. I suspect they would want dialy service out of Montreal first before expanding otherwise. I believe they have 3 flights a week, plus the same in dedicated cargo.

[trofirhen]

I'd still like to see Turkish fly to Istanbul from Vancouver, but it's not in the books (not a potential route). Istanbul would make a great gateway, not only to The Middle East, but also to cities like Jo'burg, Cape Town and such. And the 787s will not cover Vancouver - Jo'burg, anyway, so we'd have to change regardless. Getting a nonstop into Istanbul would be a prize for Vancouver.

[ACT7]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

They are only months into their first bilateral. I suspect they would want dialy service out of Montreal first before expanding otherwise. I believe they have 3 flights a week, plus the same in dedicated cargo.

Not sure what the loads are like to YUL for Qatar but my guess is that they will actually go for YYZ with 3 weekly before daily into YUL. Just my gut feel...

As for THY into YVR, that's a long shot at best. Their next likely destination ın Canada would be YUL for sure, after securing daıly YYZ slots.

Emirates was also hiring in Halifax not too long ago so I wouldn't read too much into their latest hiring campaign.

[PaperTiger]

Originally Posted by ACT7

Not sure what the loads are like to YUL for Qatar but my guess is that they will actually go for YYZ with 3 weekly before daily into YUL. Just my gut feel...

As for THY into YVR, that's a long shot at best. Their next likely destination ın Canada would be YUL for sure, after securing daıly YYZ slots.

Regardless, the biggest barrier is the fact that Turkish is Star Alliance, they won't be wanting to upset the older bothers Air Canada and Lufthansa. The only way I could see Turkish Airway metal in Vancouver is if Air Canada wanted YVR - IST and they operated as a code share.

[SpongeG]

emirates has hired in the area before - it doesn't mean much - my best friend applied and went through a first stage interview with emirates a few years ago, if hired he would have worked in dubai for training for a number of months but was never told he would be working in vancouver as they don't come here

anyway there really are no direct aussie-Canada flights? my relatives just flew here and back via Los Angeles there doesn't seem to be another choice - they got to fly the A380 though

[vanlaw]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

anyway there really are no direct aussie-Canada flights? my relatives just flew here and back via Los Angeles there doesn't seem to be another choice - they got to fly the A380 though

AC does a Vancouver-Sydney direct.

[SpongeG]

well they are australians they wanna support quantas

[deasine]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

well they are australians they wanna support quantas

Even after the QF fiasco?

I heard loads on QR from YUL are really low - it seems that QR's first entrance into YUL was more like to please the Transport Canada as opposed to for strategic reasons. But QR recently signed codeshare agreements with AC, so at least whatever they are doing might be paying off.

[SpongeG]

ah they flew to LA and than flew alaska airlines to vancouver since alaska is a partner airline with quantas

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

ah they flew to LA and than flew alaska airlines to vancouver since alaska is a partner airline with quantas

Aargh: QANTAS (Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services)

[SpongeG]

i know i always spell it wrong its just wrong not to have a U after the Q!!!! lol

[twoNeurons]

You obviously don't play scrabble.