Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 139

PHXguyinOKC · #**2761** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by phxSUNSfan

...but I'm used to real Sonoran/Mexican-American food. I can make it myself or eat at my relatives and have the real thing. I say it is like McDonald's because their ingredients aren't fresh just fresher than some fast food joints but it IS fast food and it isn't real ethnic fare.

this /\/\/\/\
Chipotle isn't that good. Even this Oklahoma tex-mex crap is better than Chipotle... hell even Filiberto's is better and way cheaper

HX_Guy · #**2762** Posted **Dec 16, 2011, 8:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHXguyinOKC

... hell even Filiberto's is better and way cheaper

I've been saying that for a long long time. Chipotle is a cleaner, more expensive but less tasty version of all the 'Bertos around town.

trigirdbers · #**2763** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 6:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by phxSUNSfan

Not to bring ethnicity into this, but I'm used to real Sonoran/Mexican-American food. I can make it myself or eat at my relatives and have the real thing. I say it is like McDonald's because their ingredients aren't fresh just fresher than some fast food joints but it IS fast food and it isn't real ethnic fare. Just an opinion, you don't have to get butt hurt over differences of opinion. We each state our case and opinions; I have a bowl or burrito from the place once in a blue moon when in a hurry. It is what it is...

My thoughts exactly.

HooverDam · #**2764** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 11:31 AM**

Speaking of the 'Bertos places, are they all owned by the same company? Or is it just a lot of copycats trying to cash in on Filibertos' fame?

azliam · #**2765** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 5:36 PM**

I'm thinking we need a separate food thread...

trigirdbers · #**2766** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 8:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by HooverDam

Speaking of the 'Bertos places, are they all owned by the same company? Or is it just a lot of copycats trying to cash in on Filibertos' fame?

The later.

Vicelord John · #**2767** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 8:47 PM**

They were originally brothers (Federico and filiberto) and broke up.

Vicelord John · #**2768** Posted **Dec 17, 2011, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by NorthScottsdale

sometimes I wonder what planet you live on... you're comments are always just.. off. Chipotle is nothing like McDonalds. their burritos are f-ing delicious, and there's always a line out the door because it's delicious

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Who owns chipotle???

Tempe_Duck · #**2769** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 1:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Who owns chipotle???

I believe the divested Chipotle a couple years ago.

nickw252 · #**2770** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 1:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Who owns chipotle???

Chipotle is privately owned. McDonald's divested their majority ownership interest years ago.

Vicelord John · #**2771** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 3:01 AM**

Ok.

Who used to own chipotle? Lol I'm just playing devils advocate. It is chainy fast food overpriced crap, but I still like it.

pbenjamin · #**2772** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by nickw252

Chipotle is privately owned. McDonald's divested their majority ownership interest years ago.

If one can believe wikipedia, that is not true (the privately owned part). It is traded on the NYSE as CMG.

trigirdbers · #**2773** Posted **Dec 18, 2011, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

They were originally brothers (Federico and filiberto) and broke up.

I think he was asking about Juliobertos and its ilk.

TakeFive · #**2774** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 7:57 AM**

Chipotle was started by Steve Ells in Denver in 1993. In 1998 McDonalds acquired a majority interest and operated the chain as a separate division. In October of 2006 McDonalds spun off
(similar to an initial public offering) Chipotle as a separate public company and fully divested its interest with the offering.

Through 2007 one could have bought their stock around $50. and then again after the market meltdown. Earlier this year, the stock reached a high near $350 but has pulled back
under current market conditions to around $320. It is one of the most successful restaurants since the spin off.

Via Huffington Post:
Steve Ells, Chipotle Founder And CEO, Honored As Innovator By 'WSJ Magazine'
First Posted: 10/24/11 02:03 PM ET Updated: 10/26/11 12:21 PM ET
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/steve-ells-chipotle-innovator-wsj-magazine_n_1028416.html

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Since 2011 began, Chipotle has hired talented James Beard award-winner Nate Appleman as its culinary manager, started to add healthier items to many of its outposts and launched an Asian spin-off brand called ShopHouse.

TakeFive · #**2775** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 8:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by scottkag

I made the effort to walk across the street and saw a new roof. And my finger.

Let me say Thumbs Up for such "digital" creativity. BTW, which digit was that?

TakeFive · #**2776** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 8:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

You know ... I sometimes understand some NIMBY complaints.

But five stories--in a struggling neighborhood, no less, poses a problem? Goode is being a numbskull of the lowest order by opposing something not only compatible but would bring new residents and investment. I can't freaking believe he would bite off his nose to spite his face like that.

The initial rendering looks quite fine to me.

Eventually I would hope for density closer to the core to reach/include 8/10/12 story buildings. Any "density" of 4-5 stories is desirable anywhere near downtown/light rail.

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Originally Posted by trigirdbers

Well, when a better proposal comes along there will still be plenty of dirt lots to build it on.

Also, did people notice the thing about GROUND FLOOR retail? This is exactly the sort of project that people have in mind when they say transit oriented development; makes it better in my book than a lot of more "impressive" projects with no street level interaction.

Exactly!!

For a mouth watering tease, you can view Denver's newest proposal for a full block development here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5510200&postcount=9606

But as I've said it wasn't always thus. You need to walk before..... but I'm still a big believer that the downtown area will sprout and catch fire.

Vicelord John · #**2777** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 5:05 PM**

PHX31 · #**2778** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 5:54 PM**

/\What is that? Looks like a new fence for the Children's museum?

Vicelord John · #**2779** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 6:12 PM**

yup, sorry there was no commentary, I posted while I was driving to work from my phone.

Yes, it's a new fence, they started today.

TakeFive · #**2780** Posted **Dec 19, 2011, 8:30 PM**

The residential market is clearing up pretty good now especially within central Phoenix. I'm just sure that along the light rail line that residential construction is not that far off.
The light rail TOD can quickly bring a whole new level of cool to the area.

I also recall a Downtown Denver Partnership dude asserting that while in suburbs retail always follows rooftops.... for potential urban core residents, they want to see the retail (often)
before they find an area desirable. But with CityScape and other misc. new retail infill plus an already existing nice offering of restaurants the table is set.

Chipotle, for example, being from Denver seems to believe in the future of Central Phoenix. 'Nuff said.